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If there is a creator, so what?
#61
RE: If there is a creator, so what?
I'd rather you torture me, Jesster, than that God dude. At least you'd be cool about it.
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#62
RE: If there is a creator, so what?
(November 14, 2016 at 8:54 am)Alasdair Ham Wrote: I'd rather you torture me, Jesster, than that God dude. At least you'd be cool about it.

For you, Hammy, it's only the good kind of torture. Tongue
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#63
RE: If there is a creator, so what?
That's what I was hoping.

Yes please.

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#64
RE: If there is a creator, so what?
Erm, yeah. Obey or else. Can anyone do better than mugging me with an imaginary gun? I don't care, anyway. I'll do what I think is right, I can't trust the word of an egotistical maniac.

It's rather an insult to any real creator out there that they would be so mind meltingly petty.
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#65
RE: If there is a creator, so what?
(November 14, 2016 at 8:39 am)Edward John Wrote: If there is a creator, so what?


So what, SO WHAT! Are you an idiot?  If God exists then you BETTER start doing exactly what he wants or Your going down, to HELL.

"If"?
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#66
RE: If there is a creator, so what?
For an interesting idea on a/the 'creator' read Asimov's The Last Question.
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#67
RE: If there is a creator, so what?
(November 14, 2016 at 8:39 am)Edward John Wrote: If there is a creator, so what?


So what, SO WHAT! Are you an idiot?  If God exists then you BETTER start doing exactly what he wants or Your going down, to HELL.

No.
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#68
RE: If there is a creator, so what?
If douchegod exists, I'm going to hell anyway.  That's never -been- enough to scare me into submission, why would it suddenly become so?  

Disregarding that Posef here brought it up, this is another one of those fundamental misperceptions that liars for christ have.  They think that if they could just prove their god existed, it would scare somebody, and that said somebody would bend the knee all of a sudden. They never prepare themselves or their arguments for that insurmountable and inevitable failure to produce the result they desire.
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#69
RE: If there is a creator, so what?
Hey, we're all creators. It's just that nobody cares about our shit. 

But then, at least it exists.
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#70
RE: If there is a creator, so what?
(November 14, 2016 at 3:58 am)robvalue Wrote: I thought I'd bring this back as it's a question I'm asking all the time of theists and I'm getting no satisfactory answers. Some people will write pages and pages of stuff trying to establish the existence of "God", but can't/won't spare a few words to tell me why I should give the first fuck about any of it.

Why should I care guys? I still haven't heard anything persuasive.

Well, let's start with a real basic and simple reason.

If it's true that god exists, then you should care about it in the same way you care about anything else you hold to be true.

Caring about truth (or at least as close as we may come to truth) seems to be something you do a lot. Why not start there?
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