So beautiful. And so he loves beauty too.

[WinterHold]

You trust historical sources that much?

Historical sources?  You mean information gleaned from ancient writings?  I suppose it's fair to say that we shouldn't place too much trust in them, yes.

No; it's the logic that the Quran presents.

[Jesster]

[robvalue]

I like you Atlas, I think you're a nice guy.

I wish you'd join in discussions on other non-religious subjects. You're kind of banging your head against a brick wall with this stuff, and it's a shame.

[ignoramus]

Rob, I also find that with others too like MK.
They're nice enough people but culturally, they are so absorbed in religion that there's not much to chit chat about...???

Are their countries technically 1st world countries? Maybe they have much more pressing issues...

(My current pressing issue right now is which gaming monitor to buy? G-Sync or Freesync (heaps cheaper) IPS (5ms) or TN screen (1ms but less colour))
And don't even start me on size and resolution! My brain has turned to mush! No wonder people turn to religion! lol!

[ReptilianPeon]

Atlas, before the Europeans (and Arabs) war in Africa was very ritualistic. Casualties were few and people mainly exchanged insults and they did not destroy the houses of other tribes. The main prizes were cattle and small bits of land (for the cattle to graze on). You could even say the Africans were quite peaceful compared to European standards.

The far richer foreigners, with all of their advanced technology meant more war was inevitable. The Europeans gave better crops, which increased the population of Africa and they traded for cattle, which meant cattle were even more valuable. Therefore, they fought each other even more. They also wanted ivory and hunting elephants with spears is no easy task, so they had to "modernize" their combat strategies.

Then the foreigners with their religions which say they have a monopoly on truth is a very alien concept to Africans. African religions, such as Voodoo, tend to borrow concepts from various places. Their religions are not strict like yours The Africans happily lived with each other. They were not savages; the Arabs and Europeans turned the people into savages with their alien ideas.

 
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[Tonus]

No; it's the logic that the Quran presents.

That would be the logic that cannot bring together the disparate groups that follow the same book, right? That instead drives such wedges between them that it leads to bloodletting?

[camlov2019]

Honestly Atlas, your intentions, although in vain, I understand. If you want to attempt to prove your deity based on the fact that many different ancient groups shared religious concepts, I will refute you by talking about the psychological "God Complex." It's not the proper term, but it is an actual scientific phenomena which argues that humans have an instinctual desire to place faith in things they don't understand or comprehend. In the times of major Mesopotamian, Greek, and Native-American civilizations, mankind didn't know about things such as Gravity, Physics, Cosmic Radiation, or Meteorology. This would have meant in, for example, the case of a flood, early man may have thought it was the work of a Higher Power we cannot see. I believe this theory is proven by The Epic of Gilgamesh. The use of Gods in this poem enforces that religion has always been used as a way to explain unusual events which can now be explained via science. These are just my opinions though.
Speaking of that: The Epic of Gilgamesh references The Great Flood, a religious cliche that translated to Judaism, Christianity, and Islam