How has Trump impacted your life personally

[scoobysnack]

https://www.politicalcompass.org/yourpol...&soc=-4.41

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That's pretty much what mine looks like. Interesting I seem to disagree with everything you say.

In his case, it's probably attributable to cognitive dissonance.

Like I've said countless times, I used to consider myself leftist, but the democratic party has fallen apart, and I can't relate to anything they really represent. Not exactly a republican either however. I think the democratic party is having an identity crisis, and so is the RNC. The DNC used to be the party of working class, but now it morphed into the elitist coastal snobs the RNC used to be. The DNC and many Clinton supporters (that I know) look at the poor with disdain and contempt. They feel they are too stupid to make decisions so decisions have to be made for them. Throughout human history, people reject being told what to do and what to believe, and resent being called ignorant so that's a major reason I along with a lot of other people who left the left can't relate especially to what it's become. I don't see them turning it around very soon either unless they calm down a bit and start acting civil, otherwise it's a huge turn off.

This was a great interview I just listened to which lays out my thoughts almost exactly and much more eloquently.

http://dailycaller.com/2017/05/13/schola...ion-video/

[Brian37]

https://www.politicalcompass.org/yourpol...&soc=-4.41

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In his case, it's probably attributable to cognitive dissonance.

Like I've said countless times, I used to consider myself leftist, but the democratic party has fallen apart, and I can't relate to anything they really represent. Not exactly a republican either however. I think the democratic party is having an identity crisis, and so is the RNC. The DNC used to be the party of working class, but now it morphed into the elitist coastal snobs the RNC used to be. The DNC and many Clinton supporters (that I know) look at the poor with disdain and contempt. They feel they are too stupid to make decisions so decisions have to be made for them. Throughout human history, people reject being told what to do and what to believe, and resent being called ignorant so that's a major reason I along with a lot of other people who left the left can't relate especially to what it's become. I don't see them turning it around very soon either unless they calm down a bit and start acting civil, otherwise it's a huge turn off.

This was a great interview I just listened to which lays out my thoughts almost exactly and much more eloquently.

http://dailycaller.com/2017/05/13/schola...ion-video/

What the fuck does "leftist" mean?

I know that evolution produces diversity, not just in our species but in all life. I also know that you cant create a utopia so the us vs them is bullshit. But right now, as far as our economy is concerned, the evidence is in. You cant simply let the rich do whatever the fuck they want all the time.

"Calm down"? 

Trump is the asshole who sold hyper nationalism and blamed everyone and offered himself as a God and cure to humanity. 

Yes I do have a fucking problem with assholes.

[Rev. Rye]

Basically the same as the last time this test came up and more than likely inaccurate. For some of the questions they needed other alternative answers (sometimes, depends on the situation, neutral, no opinion, does not apply, this question is stupid.....)

Yeah, when I was taking the quiz, I found myself saying things like "I don't really know that much about this topic" (Protectionism) or "my personal views on this topic are very complicated, with both sides of this question making me bristle" (compulsory education: my grade school was so bad [both in curriculum and environment] that I couldn't learn anything there and had to teach myself. However, I understand most other kids don't have the gumption to teach themselves about damn near everything they may need or want to know) or "this is objectively true, but that doesn't mean the underlying system behind it pans out at all" (the one about an advantage of a one-party system). This is a problem on a lot of quizzes, and I can remember taking one about sexism here years ago and pointing out how most of the answers I'd pick aren't even options.

[downbeatplumb]

The rich people are just humans like everyone else. And, just like most human poor people, and most human middle-class people: most human rich people are clueless fuckwits too.

Not all rich in the world are greedy, but the global climate sucks right now. 

I really am sick of too many on the far right thinking "capitalism" is a form of government. 

The Saudi Royal family owns businesses, like oil and banks, and invest in the global weapons industry. Gadaffi was a billionaire who owned stock in GE. Fidel Castro had an estimated personal wealth of $800,000,000 dollars.

Hitler did not ban private business, he stole it from the public and gave it to his loyalists. 

Even the Un Family has global investments. 

There is not one nation friend or foe that does not invest in the global market.

What has happened is the rich people have out sourced their greed.
People set up shadey companies that offer big profits for nefarious enterprises, the rich see "if I invest I get ten percent return" and suddenly another forrest goes and species become extinct, or children make you stuff populations are enslaved and nature raped.
Unregulated wealth generation is a breeding ground for horror and exploitation.

[Iroscato]

He's made me realise that people will do very, very strange things when motivated by fear.

[downbeatplumb]

With his cavalier attitude to world peace he has personally made me fearful in a way that I have not ever felt before.
The world is more dangerous because he has power as the people in charge of the doomsday clock will verify.
He has turned the USA from a country that I regarded as having at least its heart in the right place to a country on the same standing as a banana republic that has allowed itself to fall for the old power games of a more sophisticated rival.

His financial policies are custom made to bring on another crash and his attitude to the environment and policies will severely degrade the whole planets eco system.I am not American so his racist immigration policies and destruction of a reasonable health care system wont affect me and I will never now choose to holiday in the US but that is for you for you poor people to suffer I'm afraid.

Another thing he has done is to seemingly reinvigorate all the far right hate groups across the planet even favouring the Nazi le Pen in France.

[Pat Mustard]

But certainly capitalism can be taken much too far.

But capitalism doesn't work, as evidenced by the increased polarisation of wealth, the slowing of innovation (true innovation now, not introducing new bells and whistles to existing products) and economic performance since the reintroduction of the capitalist system in the late '70s/early '80s. The world is less productive, less capable of figuring out things and more prone to catastrophe since the post-war social democratic consensus (which meant putting strong and severe limits on profiteering, the one rule of capitalism being "there are no checks nor balances on what can be done with capital") was ditched.


Ok, it does actually work, but not to the ends given when its supposed virtues are being sold and it's extolled as the best system bar none. The purpose of capitalism is make the rich richer, and make it easier for them to appropriate the work and the capital of the less fortunate. That is why capitalism doesn't want rules and regulations, because the whole point of the system is to make it easier for much to get more. Hence the fact that 62 people own half the world's wealth.

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That's pretty much what mine looks like. Interesting I seem to disagree with everything you say.

The political compass questionnaire is very rough, and very much calibrated to a US audience. I scored a-10;-9.5 simply by answering all questions the way a typical European social democrat would.

[Jeanne]

Initially, I was dismayed that I actually hoped another human being's head would explode. Further dismay as I witnessed him suck the air out of the Republican field of decent candidates. I was concerned that I was witnessing the beginning of a bombastic dictatorship gleefully supported by my fellow citizens.

I changed party affiliation, which means little to me, in order to vote AGAINST Trump in the Republican Primary. As time when on, I decided that I could vote for no major candidate for president and so, I wrote in my choice from those still in the official running.

As Trump began to "act more presidential" I at least thought there was a chance to save something....but I also reckoned that a Clinton win might bring the nation all the way down, so the struggle to fight back up to surface might then begin; a long hard and depressing haul that would most likely be fought by our grandchildren if they cared enough. The cycle of history and human oppression yielding revolution runs something like that.

Then he actually won and I was happy that Clinton lost, hoping the family would fade into total non-relevance. And...surprisingly, I relaxed a bit and became cautiously optimistic, remaining thus until recently, when I stopped paying much attention to political news.

Currently, I am just weary of it all.

So far, no actual impact on our lives, although a curtailment of some EPA power is expected to ease some over-reaching regulations on farmers and land owners. We are each concerned with global events being shaped by Trump's foreign relations, but also glad that the US is once again building its military and exerting muscle where need be and repairing our alliances.

If there is a world war coming, it has little to do with the past 100 days, as it has been brewing for some decades.

Everything has been brewing for decades and whomever got elected would be dealing with it currently. Most of us just hold on and try to ride out whatever comes our way, with whomever is driving.

My test results:

Economic Left/Right: -1.5 
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -1.85

-Jeanne

[Aegon]

https://www.politicalcompass.org/yourpol...&soc=-4.41

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In his case, it's probably attributable to cognitive dissonance.

Like I've said countless times, I used to consider myself leftist, but the democratic party has fallen apart, and I can't relate to anything they really represent. Not exactly a republican either however. I think the democratic party is having an identity crisis, and so is the RNC. The DNC used to be the party of working class, but now it morphed into the elitist coastal snobs the RNC used to be. The DNC and many Clinton supporters (that I know) look at the poor with disdain and contempt. They feel they are too stupid to make decisions so decisions have to be made for them. Throughout human history, people reject being told what to do and what to believe, and resent being called ignorant so that's a major reason I along with a lot of other people who left the left can't relate especially to what it's become. I don't see them turning it around very soon either unless they calm down a bit and start acting civil, otherwise it's a huge turn off.

This was a great interview I just listened to which lays out my thoughts almost exactly and much more eloquently.

http://dailycaller.com/2017/05/13/schola...ion-video/

I'm confused. In another thread you said the Democrats are socialists and Marxists. Now they're elitists who disdain the working class?

[Brian37]

Stop JUST FUCKING STOP!

If the rich got everything right all the time, there would be no need for voting. If the rich got everything right America would not suffered the Great Depression or Bush's great Recession. 

If the rich got everything right there would not have been a stock market crash under Reagan. 

https://www.forbes.com/sites/lawrencelig...e892621021

If the rich got everything right we would not have had the Enron bubble or dot com bubble in the 90s. 

If the rich got everything right we would not have suffered Bush's triple whammy Bank, car housing collapse.

Nobody I would call sane is against the private sector. So stop stupidly thinking anyone who objects to your bullshit logic is out to get you.

Taxing billionaires wont hurt them. Huge difference between "cant" and "don't want to".

To be fair you are arguing a point I didn't even make, and not sure what I said that made you go off on the disparity of wealth, which I agree exists. I'm thinking you believe we are headed towards financial meltdown in the near future based on current trends you are seeing from his policies so far. It's possible I'll give you that because I expected a major correction a few years back which never happened. I used to be a prepper and now have some survival supplies and freeze dried food supply. Honest question, have you stocked up on anything in the anticipation that Shit will hit the fan?

If you agree that the disparity exists then you should NOT be supporting one damned economic policy of Trump, much less the GOP. This all started with Reagan and the GOP had held our nation hostage since. You cannot have a long term economy where the money gets suck up to the top benefiting fewer and fewer. 

The short term has been Obama slowing down the bleeding, not the GOP, our recovery is only artificial. Obama stopped the worst of it, but simply adding more jobs isn't enough, workers are not making enough. The tax rate long term when the rich are not paying in adds to the long term debt. The GOP guts programs to fund tax breaks for the top and that adds up over 4 or 8 or 10 years. 

You better hope Trump steps down and the congress flips because if he keeps 8 years and the GOP as well, you can expect another Bush Jr crash and don't be surprised if it is worse.

And again your POV is selection bias and sample rate error. I am looking at economic history long term. You cannot keep stretching the rubber band, it will break at some point. And again, this bullshit attitude is actually global coming from the top world's uber rich. Last year on CSPAN I watched the Chinese PM press conference held in Australia. He was pulling the same bullshit conservative talking points "Now is not the time to tax the rich".

If you are middle class, you should worry about YOU not multi millionaires not billionaires. I am not stupid, the rich of the world can afford it, and it is counter productive to hoard money. None of this post is advocating everyone be poor, just tired of the bullshit that the top cant afford it.