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RE: What do Atheists believe the Bible as?
July 19, 2011 at 2:21 am
(July 18, 2011 at 2:50 pm)Shell B Wrote: Has anyone else noticed the trend of Creationists apologizing to atheists for "offending" them whenever they can't handle an argument? I believe I have mentioned it before. It just strikes me as wishful thinking. As in, "I hope I offended you, but I think I did not, so I will at least make it seem like I offended you by apologizing for it." I have to assure this woman in another forum that she is incapable of offending me at least once a month. If I so much as say shit, she goes "Look! You are OFFENDED! You used sweeers!."
Too true. I've seen my own fundy parents do this to my own sister. Their favorite 'bail-out' is to pat someone on the head, say "ohhh, it's ok, I'm not trying to upset you" and then walk away from an argument that they're getting destroyed in. Meanwhile, my sister was completely fine and totally controlled.
Anyway ... right on. Nice catch.
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RE: What do Atheists believe the Bible as?
July 19, 2011 at 2:43 am
(July 19, 2011 at 2:19 am)padraic Wrote: , I think it's a safe be that Jesus had a good, earthy sense of humour. Not unreasonable to suppose he enjoyed and told fart jokes.
There IS evidence, Pad.
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RE: What do Atheists believe the Bible as?
July 19, 2011 at 3:01 pm
(July 17, 2011 at 11:46 am)TheCarlisle Wrote: Time and time again, I hear that the Bible is wrong and a tool to brainwash. Me, being a Christian, don't fully understand the atheist's position. What do you believe about the Bible? Was it created for brainwashing people? Or was it created by people who truly believed that they were influenced by a god when there is none?
I personally believe that it is the word of God, and it's the only word of God we can base Christianity on. It was either created by a politician to brainwash or a schizophrenic, I don't quite know which one. Not to mention the enumerable untruths set forth in the bible, such as pi being exactly 3. Not to mention, further still, the fact that it isn't a moral book. The Bible condones rape, slavery and many other horrific things.
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RE: What do Atheists believe the Bible as?
July 19, 2011 at 8:31 pm
(July 19, 2011 at 3:01 pm)krazedkat Wrote: (July 17, 2011 at 11:46 am)TheCarlisle Wrote: Time and time again, I hear that the Bible is wrong and a tool to brainwash. Me, being a Christian, don't fully understand the atheist's position. What do you believe about the Bible? Was it created for brainwashing people? Or was it created by people who truly believed that they were influenced by a god when there is none?
I personally believe that it is the word of God, and it's the only word of God we can base Christianity on. It was either created by a politician to brainwash or a schizophrenic, I don't quite know which one. Not to mention the enumerable untruths set forth in the bible, such as pi being exactly 3. Not to mention, further still, the fact that it isn't a moral book. The Bible condones rape, slavery and many other horrific things.
Where in the Bible does it say pi is 3 and rape is perfectly fine? I've already addressed the slavery thing and how it can benefit people.
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RE: What do Atheists believe the Bible as?
July 19, 2011 at 8:35 pm
(July 19, 2011 at 8:31 pm)TheCarlisle Wrote: Where in the Bible does it say pi is 3 and rape is perfectly fine? I've already addressed the slavery thing and how it can benefit people.
Not satisfactorily. Saying you can rape a slave is saying it is perfectly fine. That is not beneficial. That is fucking terrible.
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RE: What do Atheists believe the Bible as?
July 19, 2011 at 8:38 pm
(July 19, 2011 at 8:35 pm)Shell B Wrote: (July 19, 2011 at 8:31 pm)TheCarlisle Wrote: Where in the Bible does it say pi is 3 and rape is perfectly fine? I've already addressed the slavery thing and how it can benefit people.
Not satisfactorily. Saying you can rape a slave is saying it is perfectly fine. That is not beneficial. That is fucking terrible.
I didn't say raping a slave is fine, that's disgusting! I said slavery, IF under the rules outlined in the Bible which I've already mentioned, is fine and beneficial. The Bible doesn't condone slavery like the previous slavery in the U.S.
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RE: What do Atheists believe the Bible as?
July 19, 2011 at 8:39 pm
(This post was last modified: July 19, 2011 at 8:41 pm by Minimalist.)
1 Kings 7:23
"God" indicates the value of Pi = 3 which is known to be incorrect to any math student outside of the Bible Belt.
One does have to back into the computation.
I would expect a 'god' to know what Pi was but not some ignorant goat herder.
As for rape, go here.
http://www.evilbible.com/Rape.htm
The bible reminds me of this scene in Blazing Saddles:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2_urvjCXg6c
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RE: What do Atheists believe the Bible as?
July 19, 2011 at 8:49 pm
(July 19, 2011 at 8:38 pm)TheCarlisle Wrote: I didn't say raping a slave is fine, that's disgusting! I said slavery, IF under the rules outlined in the Bible which I've already mentioned, is fine and beneficial. The Bible doesn't condone slavery like the previous slavery in the U.S.
I didn't say you said that. The Bible says that. Therefore, you think that raping slaves is fine and beneficial. You are fucking deluded if you think that previous slavery in the U.S. is any worse than slavery in history. You sound like this idiot I know who claims everything they mention in the bible actually sounds worse than it is. What do you think they did, treated their slaves as equals? Then they wouldn't be fucking slaves.
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RE: What do Atheists believe the Bible as?
July 19, 2011 at 9:16 pm
Hold the fucking phone. There is some special set of circumstances that allows for the ethical sale or purchase of human beings?
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RE: What do Atheists believe the Bible as?
July 19, 2011 at 9:45 pm
(July 19, 2011 at 9:16 pm)Rhythm Wrote: Hold the fucking phone. There is some special set of circumstances that allows for the ethical sale or purchase of human beings?
Uh - yeah...when fuckin' god says its okay.
The funny thing there is just about the last thing that Jews had to worry about was taking slaves from other nations. They were usually on the losing end of that equation.
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