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Bringing A Knife To A Gun Fight
#21
RE: Bringing A Knife To A Gun Fight
(November 4, 2017 at 2:21 pm)Khemikal Wrote: "Our guy at any cost" gave us a trumpster, it continues to shield and legitimize a trumpster.  What would the point of electing a dem be if that dem went ahead and enacted the wingnut portion of the republican agenda?  Surely, voters can insist on some minimum standards on important issues?

Yes, "our guy at any cost" gave us Trump  And if progressives did 'our guy at any cost' maybe the right wing would have to move to the left a little, allowing us to have more progressive candidates.  Going for 'Our guy, unless they're progressive' just leads to candidates moving to the right to appeal to right-wing voters, because they're... you know, actually voting.
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#22
RE: Bringing A Knife To A Gun Fight
You might think that, but they're not even remotely rational actors.  They don't move left.  If the dems win they start screaming about white genocide.  Did you miss all eight years of Barry's presidency?

Thanks Obama.

They're voting? No they're not...they -lost- the pop vote. Their votes just count for more.

Thanks...Obama?
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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#23
RE: Bringing A Knife To A Gun Fight
The idea we should try to appeal to the right is silly . They want all or nothing . The only way we can appeal to the right is to become them . And who would want that?
Seek strength, not to be greater than my brother, but to fight my greatest enemy -- myself.

Inuit Proverb

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#24
RE: Bringing A Knife To A Gun Fight
I can distill my entire position on this matter down to a single stolen joke.  American politics has become a game of tic tac toe; the only way to win...is not to play.

It's not that I don't have hope, lol.  I think that my kids will die in a better USA than I will.  I just can't bring myself to believe against all evidence to the contrary that the way to get from here to there is by playing this silly little game that's been engineered for us.  Elections have become the proverbial bread and circuses.  They're a distraction..an episode of survivor to keep us yanking levers but otherwise complacent for the next few years..until it's time to yank a lever again.

That much, imo, should have become painfully obvious when america elected a reality tv talking head.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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