What Major Intellectual Issue Most Keeps You From Accepting The Christian Narrative?

[Whateverist]

A talking guillotine, eh? Damn, those French are cunning!

A close relation of that talking donkey.

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Except that atheists are responsible for the most atrocities, thereby making belief that a God does not exist absurd...

Somebody call a plumber?

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Except that atheists are responsible for the most atrocities, thereby making belief that a God does not exist absurd...

Except that atheism is not the belief that gods don't exist. You know this. You've been told it every time you bring it up.

Despite the emoticon, I can only conclude at this point that you are incapable of thinking.

We have a winner!

[Mister Agenda]

Addendum:

Except that atheists are responsible for the most atrocities, thereby making belief that a God does not exist absurd...

Even if the premise were true, the conclusion does not follow.

[Whateverist]

Thanks for all the replies so far! I'm going to let this thread go for another day or so, and then pick one to respond to for my project. Much appreciated.

Just out of curiosity .. and the fact that you've made a second post is already cause for that .. will you be posting here or just turning it in with your project?  Also, will you be aiming for high or low fruit?  For that matter, which challenges do you find trivial to dismiss and which, if any, do you find a challenge?  I'm doing a .. uh .. project.

[Minimalist]

While we're on about it, explain why god made Canadians? It makes no sense.

Hockey.

[DLJ]

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Except that atheists are responsible for the most atrocities, thereby making belief that a God does not exist absurd...

Apart from this being an obvious non sequitur, please explain this to me...
whilst it is easy to understand how someone would die or kill for something they strongly believe, how likely it is that someone would die or kill for something in which they do not believe?

And, as my maths teacher used to say, please show your working.

Cheers.

[FatAndFaithless]

To put it shortly, the claims of Christianity presuppose that God exists and intervenes in reality. I haven't seen any good evidence or argument for that presupposition, so I can't accept it. And any particular tenet of the Christian religion requires that presupposition first, so I can't accept any of those either.

[Huggy Bear]

Except that atheists are responsible for the most atrocities, thereby making belief that a God does not exist absurd...

That's not even quantifiable, for one. For two, I believe you're thinking of Hitler, and he identified as Christian. It also doesn't then follow that disbelief in god is absurd, even if it were true that atheists committed more atrocities than religious people. There are many other factors. You could look at whether they have less rich social lives because they're not in church all the time. Maybe they're more likely to be shunned by their religious families, so they are dealing with that. Maybe just the act of not believing in god makes them less likely to worry about consequences (all of which I think is ridiculous). That doesn't mean god is real.

For what it's worth, I don't think religious people or atheists are any more or less monstrous, though I can say for sure that organized groups of religious people slaughtering those who feel differently is definitely more common than organized groups of atheists doing anything other than go to Comic Con together.

I'm not talking about hitler, i'm talking about communist regimes, and the body counts are very much quantifiable...

[Minimalist]

Dear Huggy....why are you so stupid that you cannot grasp the simple fact that jesus freak fucks - like you - killed anyone they could get their hands on who did not believe in their particular variant of jesusism.

Communists killed people who resisted communism.  They were not killed because they were stupid enough to believe in some other god.

Sometimes you people can be thick as shit, you know that?

[Whateverist]

That's not even quantifiable, for one. For two, I believe you're thinking of Hitler, and he identified as Christian. It also doesn't then follow that disbelief in god is absurd, even if it were true that atheists committed more atrocities than religious people. There are many other factors. You could look at whether they have less rich social lives because they're not in church all the time. Maybe they're more likely to be shunned by their religious families, so they are dealing with that. Maybe just the act of not believing in god makes them less likely to worry about consequences (all of which I think is ridiculous). That doesn't mean god is real.

For what it's worth, I don't think religious people or atheists are any more or less monstrous, though I can say for sure that organized groups of religious people slaughtering those who feel differently is definitely more common than organized groups of atheists doing anything other than go to Comic Con together.

I'm not talking about hitler, i'm talking about communist regimes, and the body counts are very much quantifiable...

There are things to say which would help explain how there is more to communism than atheism (not to mention communism is compatible with theism), but that would require words and I recognize the difficulty they cause you.

[downbeatplumb]

Hi Friends 

I hope this is the right sub-forum. I'm currently in a Christian apologetics class, and I have been assigned a project. I need to find a non or "ex" Christian and ask them what the most significant intellectual issue they find in the Christian narrative. Would anyone be willing to help me out with this? 

You would simply state the most important issue that discredits Christianity as a rational position, whatever it might be, and then I will prepare a Christian response to whatever objection you raise and send it to you. You would then read it and send me back a short paragraph or so (or more) detailing your response to whatever I've written. If you are willing to do this, then either post your issue below or pm me. It would be much appreciated. 

Thanks!

The entire idea of theism seems like childish nonsense to me. So I would have to say all of it.