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RE: There Is No Sin!
March 12, 2018 at 1:10 am
Looks up "No Sin" on reliable source: Religiousnutbags.com
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Religious people never did that in the crusades because you weren't there to prove it, so there!"
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RE: There Is No Sin!
March 12, 2018 at 7:27 am
(March 11, 2018 at 11:16 am)chimp3 Wrote: No such thing as sin!
There are crimes. There are actions which hurt others. There are actions which harm the planet. There is plenty of wrongdoing.
Humans are capable of change. We are capable of forgiveness. Forgiveness is a human concept.
I am not a sinner!
Really humans are capable of change, then why is this planet and humanity as a whole are worse off than we have ever been. By the way sin is an action against God, when you commit an offensive action against another person you still have sinned against the God that loves that person. Forgiveness as a concept, really. A concept is an idea, notion or abstraction, in other words it's not real. Forgiveness is real and it is from God and a part of us as we are created to be in the image of God. Yes like me you are a sinner, the difference in us is I'm forgiven by the grace of God and that is a most awesome thing.
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RE: There Is No Sin!
March 12, 2018 at 7:40 am
(March 12, 2018 at 7:27 am)Godscreated Wrote: (March 11, 2018 at 11:16 am)chimp3 Wrote: No such thing as sin!
There are crimes. There are actions which hurt others. There are actions which harm the planet. There is plenty of wrongdoing.
Humans are capable of change. We are capable of forgiveness. Forgiveness is a human concept.
I am not a sinner!
Really humans are capable of change, then why is this planet and humanity as a whole are worse off than we have ever been. By the way sin is an action against God, when you commit an offensive action against another person you still have sinned against the God that loves that person. Forgiveness as a concept, really. A concept is an idea, notion or abstraction, in other words it's not real. Forgiveness is real and it is from God and a part of us as we are created to be in the image of God. Yes like me you are a sinner, the difference in us is I'm forgiven by the grace of God and that is a most awesome thing.
GC
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RE: There Is No Sin!
March 12, 2018 at 8:01 am
(March 12, 2018 at 7:27 am)Godscreated Wrote: A concept is an idea, notion or abstraction, in other words it's not real.
God and sin are concepts, as well. 
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RE: There Is No Sin!
March 12, 2018 at 8:04 am
For the religious, sin would include worshipping the wrong God and worshipping the correct God incorrectly.
So, any specific insight from our religious participants how to avoid both errors ??
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RE: There Is No Sin!
March 12, 2018 at 8:14 am
Godscreated Wrote: humanity as a whole are worse off than we have ever been.
That is not true at all. Not even close to the truth.
Sure, there are certain individuals that are worse off than they have ever been, but humanity?
Humanity is doing just fine.
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RE: There Is No Sin!
March 12, 2018 at 8:23 am
(March 12, 2018 at 7:27 am)Godscreated Wrote: (March 11, 2018 at 11:16 am)chimp3 Wrote: No such thing as sin!
There are crimes. There are actions which hurt others. There are actions which harm the planet. There is plenty of wrongdoing.
Humans are capable of change. We are capable of forgiveness. Forgiveness is a human concept.
I am not a sinner!
Really humans are capable of change, then why is this planet and humanity as a whole are worse off than we have ever been. By the way sin is an action against God, when you commit an offensive action against another person you still have sinned against the God that loves that person. Forgiveness as a concept, really. A concept is an idea, notion or abstraction, in other words it's not real. Forgiveness is real and it is from God and a part of us as we are created to be in the image of God. Yes like me you are a sinner, the difference in us is I'm forgiven by the grace of God and that is a most awesome thing.
GC
(bolding mine)
Does God bear any responsibility for sending His screw up kid down and inspiring tens of thousands of schisms in His preferred religion ??
Seems like humanity as a whole might have been better served with a much less schism inspiring Savior.
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RE: There Is No Sin!
March 12, 2018 at 8:47 am
(March 12, 2018 at 7:27 am)Godscreated Wrote: Really humans are capable of change, then why is this planet and humanity as a whole are worse off than we have ever been.
I don't really think we ARE worse off than we have ever been. By what metric are you measuring this? We've made great strides in science and medicine (no thanks to religion). What used to be a fatal illness 90% of the time is now treatable in a matter of days.
We've more-or-less stamped out slavery. (No thanks to religion- Ephesians 6:5). Slavery used to be a worldwide affair, now it exists in dilute form in the third world, and advocacy groups make it harder and harder for the institution to operate.
What if you are a child being sexually abused by a parent (or your priest)? You have hope now in this modern age where there is widespread awareness of such things. In the past, there was no recourse or outreach program to go to. People would be less prone to believe or help you.
That's just to name a few things, GC. So I ask again: by what metric are you measuring things?
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RE: There Is No Sin!
March 12, 2018 at 9:54 am
Sin lies only in hurting another person unnecessarily. Hurting yourself isn't sinful, just stupid.' - Robert Heinlein
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RE: There Is No Sin!
March 12, 2018 at 11:22 am
(March 11, 2018 at 11:16 am)chimp3 Wrote: No such thing as sin!
There are crimes. There are actions which hurt others. There are actions which harm the planet. There is plenty of wrongdoing.
Humans are capable of change. We are capable of forgiveness. Forgiveness is a human concept.
I am not a sinner!
If there is no such thing then, why the need for your last line/your final declaration?
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