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What beliefs would we consider reasonable for a self proclaimed Christian to hold?
RE: What beliefs would we consider reasonable for a self proclaimed Christian to hold?
(March 16, 2018 at 1:27 am)Fake Messiah Wrote:
(March 15, 2018 at 5:37 pm)He lives Wrote: I've heard that one before. However, I was referring to what seems obvious to me, and that is that consciousness is not of the body. Our thoughts do not come from random electrical impulses in the brain. Neither did our bodies come about by random acts of nature. It was designed just like a Boeing 747. Nature had billions of years to design a 747, but it didn't. Our bodies are much more complicated than a 747. There is a big problem with nature did it.

YAY! ANOTHER AIRPLANE FUCKER!!! Another dumbass christian who is excited about his debunked rhetoric.
It's almost as funny as banned idea that computers have sex .
Seek strength, not to be greater than my brother, but to fight my greatest enemy -- myself.

Inuit Proverb

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RE: What beliefs would we consider reasonable for a self proclaimed Christian to hold?
(March 16, 2018 at 12:54 am)He lives Wrote: This article shares my views:...

Well here are my views.
You are a standard issue troll who may, or may not, believe the garbage you post. But what is for sure; you are a very ordinary person, an exceedingly ordinary person. Just one of many hundreds who have passed this way and left not one trace of their presence. Not one mark,scratch or rune will you leave here.
You are nothing. You are nobody. You are an inadequate.
In short; You're a cunt!

But then you know this.
It's amazing 'science' always seems to 'find' whatever it is funded for, and never the oppsite. Drich.
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RE: What beliefs would we consider reasonable for a self proclaimed Christian to hold?
Quote:This article shares my views:...
Which are false
Seek strength, not to be greater than my brother, but to fight my greatest enemy -- myself.

Inuit Proverb

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RE: What beliefs would we consider reasonable for a self proclaimed Christian to hold?
He lives came here to get recognition from us for throwing away wisdom of this world in order to be a dumbass for Christ - just as Paul has thought them in the Bible.

1 Cor. 3:18-19 Stop deceiving yourselves. If you think you are wise by this world's standards, you need to become a fool to be truly wise.

1 Cor. 1:19-21 It is written, I will destroy the wisdom of the wise, and the cleverness of the clever I will thwart. Where is the wise man? Where is the scribe? Where is the debater of this age? Has not God made foolish the wisdom of the world? For since, in the wisdom of God, the world did not know God through wisdom

1 Corinthians 4:10 We are fools for Christ, but you are wise in Christ. We are weak, but you are strong. You are honored, but we are dishonored.

Bravo sir! You have achieved an ultimate nirvana in Christianity which is a philosophy in which one of its prime propagandists openly advocates becoming a fool.

So here is our accolade, wear it with pride to you and go in peace

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teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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RE: What beliefs would we consider reasonable for a self proclaimed Christian to hold?
(March 16, 2018 at 1:00 am)Tizheruk Wrote: Evolution news is an ID propaganda site . Run by the frauds at the discovery institute. Their lies  have been documented to death . Their the only ones faking anything .

https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Discovery_Institute

And it claim the DNA is too complex for evolution is bunk .

More on Junk DNA staring Discovery institute liar  Jonathan Wells 
https://sandwalk.blogspot.ca/2017/05/

More on junk DNA and how it's not dead 

https://sandwalk.blogspot.ca/2017/05/den...k-dna.html

Rationalwiki is propaganda. There are 440 scientists working for years on the human genome making millions of dollars, and they still haven't figured it out. That is not complicated?

(March 16, 2018 at 2:20 am)Succubus Wrote:
(March 16, 2018 at 12:54 am)He lives Wrote: This article shares my views:...

Well here are my views.
You are a standard issue troll who may, or may not, believe the garbage you post. But what is for sure; you are a very ordinary person, an exceedingly ordinary person. Just one of many hundreds who have passed this way and left not one trace of their presence. Not one mark,scratch or rune will you leave here.
You are nothing. You are nobody. You are an inadequate.
In short; You're a cunt!

But then you know this.

You are biased, rude, and crude, but then you know this.

You are a funny LOL.
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RE: What beliefs would we consider reasonable for a self proclaimed Christian to hold?
(March 15, 2018 at 11:51 pm)He lives Wrote:
(March 15, 2018 at 5:48 pm)Lutrinae Wrote:





(March 15, 2018 at 6:10 pm)Khemikal Wrote:


Quote:Adam and Eve had perfect bodies to begin with. When they became mortal their bodies were changed and became imperfect. They still lived almost 1,000 years. Later our bodies were changed to a 120 year lifespan. Has science been able to add another 120 years to our lifespan? We are actually getting worse, not better. Your call.

Science, genetics, DNA, etc., etc., have conclusively proved in multiple ways that the human race could not possibly have grown from a single couple.  Simplistic explanation of MVP    Science has also clearly mapped age of the earth, age of the human species, human migration patterns, and the fact that every single human on earth is African.  Your call.

Before you whine that the article only applies to ANIMALS, here are the human numbers.

"The family that prays together...is brainwashing their children."- Albert Einstein
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RE: What beliefs would we consider reasonable for a self proclaimed Christian to hold?
I don;t think that matters to a person who believes in cantrips.  Frankly, I don't know why a comparison between a 747 and a cell ever appeals to a believer....because it's not biology or engineering the person is trying to assert either way.  God is not a biologist or an aeronautical engineer.  He's a sorcerer.  We weren't grown or drafted.  We were breathed into existence out of mud and ribs.

Hey, here's one for all the cretinists...did adam or eve have belly buttons? Was that included in their "perfect bodies"? Did their dna contain hereditary disease, waiting to procreate it's way into the next generation? Was that included in their "perfect bodies"? Male pattern baldness, is this caused by a flaw in the "design"..or is it one of the many wages of "sin" pursuant to the curse and fall?

Speaking of...are women bitchy "because women" or because god specifically cursed them to be so, as it says in magic book?
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: What beliefs would we consider reasonable for a self proclaimed Christian to hold?
(March 16, 2018 at 9:06 am)Khemikal Wrote: I don;t think that matters to a person who believes in cantrips.  Frankly, I don't know why a comparison between a 747 and a cell ever appeals to a believer....because it's not biology or engineering the person is trying to assert either way.  God is not a biologist or an aeronautical engineer.  He's a sorcerer.  We weren't grown or drafted.  We were breathed into existence out of mud and ribs.

Hey, here's one for all the cretinists...did adam or eve have belly buttons?  Was that included in their "perfect bodies"?  Did their dna contain hereditary disease, waiting to procreate it's way into the next generation? Was that included in their "perfect bodies"?  Male pattern baldness, is this caused by a flaw in the "design"..or is it one of the many wages of "sin" pursuant to the curse and fall?

Yeah, at the base of it, they're not arguing facts at all.  I have asked questions of many fundamentalists, and they all revert to "who cares what science says? God can do anything he wants!"  This protects their ability to turn their brains completely off and still feel superior.
"The family that prays together...is brainwashing their children."- Albert Einstein
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RE: What beliefs would we consider reasonable for a self proclaimed Christian to hold?
(March 15, 2018 at 10:35 am)drfuzzy Wrote:
(March 14, 2018 at 1:16 pm)Drich Wrote: what a 3 dimensional way of thinking.

What if the whole of reality exceeded the confines of 3 dimensional thought?
That would make your meme unless and your assessment of Billions of people across time sharing the same 'group hypnosis even if they never had access to God or the bible.

Three dimensional.  Our lives are three dimensional.  Our planet is three dimensional.  If there are other dimensions, we have no data on them, therefore, they are irrelevant.
Billions of people have come up with a god concept.  They were trying to explain what the sun was, or trying to control others by claiming that they could talk to the rain god.
Billions of people have come up with many thousands of very different gods.  It's called story-telling and imagination.  If there was any credible evidence of anything remotely like a deity, these "gods" would be identical, and proof for this creature would be obvious.  This is not the case.

glob..
Our planet is 3 dimensional yes, but our existence is 4. The fourth being time. without the measure time the objects defined by the measure of length width and height are frozen in place. So again yes while science can indeed well define the objects found readily in the three dimensions it has no protocol to account for what s lost to time, besides guessing
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RE: What beliefs would we consider reasonable for a self proclaimed Christian to hold?
(March 16, 2018 at 11:03 am)Drich Wrote:
(March 15, 2018 at 10:35 am)drfuzzy Wrote: Three dimensional.  Our lives are three dimensional.  Our planet is three dimensional.  If there are other dimensions, we have no data on them, therefore, they are irrelevant.
Billions of people have come up with a god concept.  They were trying to explain what the sun was, or trying to control others by claiming that they could talk to the rain god.
Billions of people have come up with many thousands of very different gods.  It's called story-telling and imagination.  If there was any credible evidence of anything remotely like a deity, these "gods" would be identical, and proof for this creature would be obvious.  This is not the case.

glob..
Our planet is 3 dimensional yes, but our existence is 4. The fourth being time. without the measure time the objects defined by the measure of length width and height are frozen in place. So again yes while science can indeed well define the objects found readily in the three dimensions it has no protocol to account for what s lost to time, besides guessing

Time.  Measured by our awareness as related to the earth's rotation.  So?  Time has no bearing on the existence or non-existence of any deities, and certainly provides no proof of the existence of such creatures.  And sure, we can say a lot about "what's lost to time" (lol) whole disciplines are built around it.  Time was once proposed as a 4th dimension but that was 100 years ago.  Here is a good article on the subject. 
  https://phys.org/news/2012-04-physicists...space.html     
“With clocks we measure the numerical order of motion in 3D space,” Sorli told Phys.org. “Time is 'separated' from space in a sense that time is not a fourth dimension of space. Instead, time as a numerical order of change exists in a 3D space. Our model on space and time is founded on measurement and corresponds better to physical reality.”
"The family that prays together...is brainwashing their children."- Albert Einstein
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