What is your problem with Islam? Think about it

[SaStrike]

Good one

---

What about the other thjngs? How do u explain them?

The cross and third day resurrection predictions? Where did you hear of this? Humans right? You are being lied to, time to wake up and smell the coffee.

[The Grand Nudger]

Not vague at all. The messiah would be born in a certain small town and come from a certain lineage. It’s preposterous to call that vague. And to have a following 2000 years later of many people that’s pretty impressive. But you won’t believe which sucks cuz it’s a gift he gave to everyone dying on the cross and everyone who trusts in him will have eternal life.  It’s an easy burden to carry yet most reject god and his son. 

The death of another person for your own mistakes is most certainly not an easy burden to carry.  It;s not an offer that I can ever accept.

Which he also predicted. Even his own people the Jews would reject him which the Bible also predicted.

Surprise surprise, theres nothing in the judaism that allows for or predicts a god made incarnate in a man.  That...not to put too fine a point on it, is heresy to them.  They;re still waiting for their messiah...because he still hasn;t come.

And he would be handed over and die on a cross. Which was also predicted. And he would raise on the 3rd day. Also predicted. You know all those fossils you want Christians to look at. Christians want you to look at how historical and trustworthy the Bible actually is. It’s incredible and no other book sustains like it.

I think you need to reassess the historicity of the bible, both old and new testament...but not with the eyes of a believer.

[robvalue]

It's really unsurprising that some people wrote a few vaguely historically accurate things. They'd have to be complete morons to fail to do this, in fact. This is no way grants them authority to add in magical stories/details.

[The Grand Nudger]

Magic book gets it wrong so often it sort of™ seems like they were trying.

[robvalue]

Oh yeah, speaking of stars (which is what we were trying to explain), the Bible says they are decorations on a "firmament". This is obviously untrue, so the Bible has failed.

[yragnitup]

In Islam, it begins with the creation of the universe:

Sura 7, The Quran:

Sahih International
(54) Indeed, your Lord is Allah, who created the heavens and earth in six days and then established Himself above the Throne. He covers the night with the day, [another night] chasing it rapidly; and [He created] the sun, the moon, and the stars, subjected by His command. Unquestionably, His is the creation and the command; blessed is Allah, Lord of the worlds.

Then after a while we don't know, he created Adam:

Sura 2, The Quran:
Sahih International


(30) And [mention, O Muhammad], when your Lord said to the angels, "Indeed, I will make upon the earth a successive authority." They said, "Will You place upon it one who causes corruption therein and sheds blood, while we declare Your praise and sanctify You?" Allah said, "Indeed, I know that which you do not know."

(31) And He taught Adam the names - all of them. Then He showed them to the angels and said, "Inform Me of the names of these, if you are truthful."

We are not told the details of what came before in the Quran; that's my belief: I only believe in the Quran. Anything outside it -like Hadith books, or Sunni/Shiite faiths are not valid-.

After creating Adam and teaching him, Satan -an angel- lured Adam to sin. God banished them from paradise to live on earth, and fight in it until the day of judgement:

Not only Muslims are disconnected with reality, they are even disconnected with their own stupid cult.
In Islam, the very 1st & the father of all Satan is Iblis and Iblis was a jinn who supposedly was disobedient to Allah. Angels (made from Light) & Jinns (made from Smoke) are also supposedly different creations of Allah. Satan as a fallen angel is a Christian fairy tale not Islam. Or maybe Muhammad didn't copy it correctly when he was concocting his cult.

[WinterHold]

Not only Muslims are disconnected with reality, they are even disconnected with their own stupid cult.
In Islam, the very 1st & the father of all Satan is Iblis and Iblis was a jinn who supposedly was disobedient to Allah. Angels (made from Light) & Jinns (made from Smoke) are also supposedly different creations of Allah. Satan as a fallen angel is a Christian fairy tale not Islam. Or maybe Muhammad didn't copy it correctly when he was concocting his cult.

You claimed angels are made from "light", but that opinion is only based -and only exists- in the Hadith books, and has no basis in the Quran. Not a single verse across the Quran say that angels are made of light.

See this verse:

Sura 17, The Quran:
Sahih International

(61) And [mention] when We said to the angles, "Prostrate to Adam," and they prostrated, except for Iblees. He said, "Should I prostrate to one You created from clay?"

God didn't say to "Satan/Iblees"to prostrate, rather he told "the whole group of angels", and Iblees/Satan was one of them, that's why the word "except" is used. He had the "rank" of an angel; he was an angel.

In another verse, his "race" is mentioned:

Sura 18, The Quran:
Sahih International

(50) And [mention] when We said to the angels, "Prostrate to Adam," and they prostrated, except for Iblees. He was of the jinn and departed from the command of his Lord. Then will you take him and his descendants as allies other than Me while they are enemies to you? Wretched it is for the wrongdoers as an exchange.

One verse is telling us his rank (angel), the other verses is telling us his race (Jinn).
Even humans can be angels:

Sura 43, The Quran:
Sahih International

(61) And if We willed, We could have made [instead] of you angels succeeding [one another] on the earth.

My belief is below my username; I don't believe in the Hadith books as a source of faith. So....

[yragnitup]

One verse is telling us his rank (angel), the other verses is telling us his race (Jinn).
Even humans can be angels:

Angel is a rank and Jinn is a race? And humans can be angels? So angel Gabriel race was originally a human or a genie? You reject all Islamic scholars since Muhammad & give your own spin? This is not Islam. I suggest you try this theory at Muslims forums.

[WinterHold]

One verse is telling us his rank (angel), the other verses is telling us his race (Jinn).
Even humans can be angels:

Angel is a rank and Jinn is a race? And humans can be angels? So angel Gabriel race was originally a human or a genie? You reject all Islamic scholars since Muhammad & give your own spin? This is not Islam. I suggest you try this theory at Muslims forums.

I suggest on the other hand, that you take your ass to youtube or a site made for trolling theists
Bitch

[yragnitup]

I suggest on the other hand, that you take your ass to youtube or a site made for trolling theists
Bitch

Bitch? That's all? Resort to personal attack when you have no answer to defend your filthy cult? And btw this IS a site to troll theists. Are you high on camel urine?

Now fill up the blank, what is angel Gabriel's race:

Name: Gabriel
Rank: Angel
Job: Delivery boy
Race: ________