Damned Catholics

[FatAndFaithless]

The Catholic Church has a severe shortage of priests. There is like 1 Catholic priest for every 3.5 thousand Catholics. There has never been such a disparity in Catholic history.

The Church acts like its a government and has a massive bureaucracy. People are turned off by that kind of religion. The historic Jesus of Nazareth was a radical, apocalyptic preacher, living on the margins of society. The Sadducees of his day are comparable to the Catholic bishops. Now I know why many Catholics are leaving that church, they see a major discrepancy between the church and the original Jesus movement.

Or... people just don't believe what they're selling anymore. And there's that little issue of the massive child rape ring cover-up thing...

[Minimalist]

The historic Jesus of Nazareth was a radical,

The "historic" godboy was not "historic."  At least there is no "history"  of him from the period in question.

[Cherub786]

The historic Jesus of Nazareth was a radical,

The "historic" godboy was not "historic."  At least there is no "history"  of him from the period in question.

There is a history even if it's not entirely reliable. Scholars go by the method of multiple attestation to derive things about his life which they are fairly certain is true, such as that he was born in Nazareth, he had some connection to the historical John the Baptist, he preached the end of days, he was crucified by the Romans.

[Minimalist]

Scholars go by the method of multiple attestation

And what, pray tell, is this "multiple attestation" of which you speak?

[Cherub786]

Scholars go by the method of multiple attestation

And what, pray tell, is this "multiple attestation" of which you speak?

Simple, whatever the earliest sources on Jesus all agree on or tend to agree on, is probably true.

[Minimalist]

And what are these "earliest" sources....


P.S. be prepared to defend your answer.

[Cherub786]

And what are these "earliest" sources....


P.S. be prepared to defend your answer.

Check the video I posted then get back to me on your thoughts.

[Minimalist]

Within the first minute and a half he is treating a document which says

After they had heard the king, they went on their way, and the star they had seen in the east went ahead of them until it stood over the place where the Child was.


Matt. 2:9

as "historically reliable."  Give me a break.  You are not a primitive goat herder.  What do you think would happen if a "star" did that.  Or, is that where you start making excuses for your gospels in the customary manner of apologetics?

[Cherub786]

Within the first minute and a half he is treating a document which says

After they had heard the king, they went on their way, and the star they had seen in the east went ahead of them until it stood over the place where the Child was.


Matt. 2:9

as "historically reliable."  Give me a break.  You are not a primitive goat herder.  What do you think would happen if a "star" did that.  Or, is that where you start making excuses for your gospels in the customary manner of apologetics?

Damn boy at least watch more than half a minute before you jump to conclusions

[Fake Messiah]

Gay people should not join Catholic clergy, Pope Francis says

https://amp.theguardian.com/world/2018/d...ancis-says

*DUH* it's peadophile only club.