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Donald Trump Is Pulling Out Of Syria
#21
RE: Donald Trump Is Pulling Out Of Syria
Trump's only concern is to distract the public and manufacture a win on a campaign promise because he knows his wall is simply not going to happen.
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RE: Donald Trump Is Pulling Out Of Syria
(December 20, 2018 at 2:17 pm)Cato Wrote:   If I could have my way I would remove troops from Afghanistan and Korea.  I would also consider a reduction in Okinawa.  There are scores of bases of varying sizes in Africa and Europe that should also be abandoned.

A good portion of our unproductive deployments would have made a hell of a difference if they'd been redirected to Syria.

Global force for good..and all that noise.
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RE: Donald Trump Is Pulling Out Of Syria
(December 20, 2018 at 9:04 am)FatAndFaithless Wrote:
(December 20, 2018 at 8:30 am)Maketakunai Wrote: Unless of course Elon Musk, the political left, and all the climate change alarmists are all wrong and we really do need the oil...
 
...you mean the crushing majority of scientists?  The people best qualified to examine the issue?  All of them are 'alarmists'?
Well my friend he needs some way to make this about the "evil left" no matter how unrelated and frankly absurd it is .

(December 20, 2018 at 9:40 am)Cato Wrote:
(December 20, 2018 at 8:30 am)Maketakunai Wrote: All the noise about ISIS and humanitarian efforts has always just been a pretense. We're only there for oil. ISIS will be around for a long time because they're fanatics. Let someone else keep them in check for a while. The only question we should be concerned with is whether or not that oil is worth all the aggravation. If the goal is to use less oil, pollute less, and save the planet from global warming (or whatever) then pulling out of Syria would seem to be a step in the right direction.

Unless of course Elon Musk, the political left, and all the climate change alarmists are all wrong and we really do need the oil...

Based on 2015 production statistics, Syria produced 30K barrels/day (ranked 66th), the U.S. produced 9.41M barrels/day (ranked 3rd).  I have seen recent article claiming that the U.S. is now the number one oil producing nation.  The U.S. is most assuredly not in Syria for the oil.
And that was in 2015 after years of war I can't imagine there production has gone up much as for America it's at a peak of oil production not seen since the 70's

(December 20, 2018 at 9:25 am)onlinebiker Wrote:
(December 20, 2018 at 8:35 am)wyzas Wrote: It's only 2000 troops, meh.

You wouldn't say " meh" were you one of those 2000....
Of course it not just the troops it's all the people who support the troops
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RE: Donald Trump Is Pulling Out Of Syria
Fracking, man.  Fracking freed us up to sell shitloads of crude. That and the growth of renewables, ironically.

Fun fact, every frontline combatant has at least a half dozen in support...and that's not counting all the people who support them, making and moving the shit required. Every frontliner wants to go home, and as happy as it sounds when that happens..it amounts to unemployment for the rest of the lot.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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(December 20, 2018 at 3:19 pm)Gae Bolga Wrote: Fracking, man.  Fracking freed us up to sell shitloads of crude.  That and the growth of renewables, ironically.

Of course at a risk
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RE: Donald Trump Is Pulling Out Of Syria
Risk is one word for it.  Known damage is more like, lol.  Wink
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: Donald Trump Is Pulling Out Of Syria
(December 20, 2018 at 11:34 am)Gae Bolga Wrote: It's a shame that we've decided to give up where we should persist, and persist where there is nothing to be gained.  Decisions like these shame the uniform.
This also true . ISIS is not beaten and to those who say let someone else deal with it you'll eat those words one day .
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RE: Donald Trump Is Pulling Out Of Syria
(December 20, 2018 at 8:30 am)Maketakunai Wrote: the political left, and all the climate change alarmists are all wrong and we really do need the oil...

I don't know what you're smoking, but it's already too late. Your brain is permanently destroyed.
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RE: Donald Trump Is Pulling Out Of Syria
(December 20, 2018 at 3:19 pm)Gae Bolga Wrote: Fracking, man.  Fracking freed us up to sell shitloads of crude.  That and the growth of renewables, ironically.

Fun fact, every frontline combatant has at least a half dozen in support...and that's not counting all the people who support them, making and moving the shit required.  Every frontliner wants to go home, and as happy as it sounds when that happens..it amounts to unemployment for the rest of the lot.
Indeed a military deployment is an industrial complex
Seek strength, not to be greater than my brother, but to fight my greatest enemy -- myself.

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RE: Donald Trump Is Pulling Out Of Syria
Yup, we've gotta do it, the only choices we have are where...and for what.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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