Less Cops = ?

[Rev. Rye]

They clearly are real.  One murdered two people the other day.  Fortunately, school hasn't been in session long enough for yet another tragedy.  One upside to the virus.  Your imagination of others imaginations is imaginary.

Don't play that shit.

My response was quite clear. There are of course armed idiots running around from time to time.

Of course people get hit by lightning too.

At roughly the same rate.

And yet lightning strikes don’t hit America at a disproportionately high rate (adjusted for population and sheer size of the nation) the same way gun violence does.

[The Architect Of Fate]

Don't play that shit.

He isn't playing 

My response was quite clear. There are of course armed idiots running around from time to time.

Not really . Yeah down play that 

Of course people get hit by lightning too.

Lighting lacks intention 

At roughly the same rate.

Nope

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

Are all US cops trigger-happy racists? Of course not.

Are they all part of a systemically racist system that protects trigger-happy racists? Yup. 

Boru

[TaraJo]

It isn't rainbows and unicorns.

https://www.newsweek.com/police-officers...es-1524648


Gee..

Big surprise.

Correlation =/= Causation 

Personally, I think it says something about cops that, when the public wants them to stop needlessly killing black people, they throw their hands in the air and cry "I can't work under those conditions!  I quit!"

[Ranjr]

Oh really.


Articles about cops quitting:

https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/16/us/us-pol...index.html

https://nypost.com/2020/06/19/amid-black...the-force/

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article...atter.html

https://www.denverpost.com/2020/08/18/co...eform-law/


https://www.latimes.com/world-nation/sto...oyd-police


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Nawww ... It's all just clickbait... It's just a right wing conspiracy....

Cops won't quit....

Only the bad guys will quit.

It will all be unicorns, rainbows and butterflys....

All that googling to miss the point.  I didn't say cops aren't quitting or that only bad guys quit.  I said it's a silly article.  Why is it silly?  Because it implies the spike in murders is due to cops quitting.  Murders are spiking in law and order towns like Tulsa.  The fallacy is false cause, but you fall for it because it's what you want to believe. 

All that furious googling.

[Anomalocaris]

Don't play that shit.

My response was quite clear. There are of course armed idiots running around from time to time.

Of course people get hit by lightning too.

At roughly the same rate.

And yet lightning strikes don’t hit America at a disproportionately high rate (adjusted for population and sheer size of the nation) the same way gun violence does.

Well, amazingly, how often lightening strikes hits people depends on how much time people spend out of door without lightning protection in areas of frequent lightning storms.  At the beginning of the 20th century, Americans had a higher chance of being struck and killed by lightning than People of just about any country in the world today.     Back then, on average, 6 Americans out of every million can expected to be killed by lightning each year.    

So in the worst year of lightning fatalities recorded in American history, the average American had may be 1/10 the chance of being killed by lightning each year compared to Americans of today had of being killed by guns.

Fast forward to now, for the average American Today, lightning rods and indoor sedentary habits have reduced rate of lightning fatality by a factor of 30.    So the average American now has 1/300 the chance of killed by lightning compared to being killed by guns.     A factor of 300 is very rough indeed.

[Mister Agenda]

Spikes in a transient period doesn't mean there will be spikes in the steady state.  I think I'll wait to see what Time magazine has to say.

Besides, who needs cops when we have angry white dudes with assault weapons?

Who's gonna take down the angry white dudes with assault weapons? 

You?

That might not be a good example since the police seem to be really going out of their way not to take down angry white dudes with assault weapons. Hundreds of members of law enforcement have been identified as members of far right extremist groups, maybe that has something to do with it.

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I see you have no refutation to my points, and no interest in a good faith discussion.  Too bad.

Point?

You just have rhetoric. I.e. bullshit.

Your "shooting people willy nilly" makes it very clear that you know NOTHING about the law enforcement community and your dismissive response confirms it.

You have an internet formed opinion. Not one formed from interaction with any real people in real life.

I know enough cops and ex cops - and like and respect them. They are good people. The only timr any of them drew their service weapon was to dispatch a mortally crippled deer.

I couldn't help but notice you didn't quote the part where she said she's in an FBI family.

[onlinebiker]

And yet lightning strikes don’t hit America at a disproportionately high rate (adjusted for population and sheer size of the nation) the same way gun violence does.

Well, amazingly, how often lightening strikes hits people depends on how much time people spend out of door without lightning protection in areas of frequent lightning storms.  At the beginning of the 20th century, Americans had a higher chance of being struck and killed by lightning than People of just about any country in the world today.     Back then, on average, 6 Americans out of every million can expected to be killed by lightning each year.    

So in the worst year of lightning fatalities recorded in American history, the average American had may be 1/10 the chance of being killed by lightning each year compared to Americans of today had of being killed by guns.

Fast forward to now, for the average American Today, lightning rods and indoor sedentary habits have reduced rate of lightning fatality by a factor of 30.    So the average American now has 1/300 the chance of killed by lightning compared to being killed by guns.     A factor of 300 is very rough indeed

[Mister Agenda]

I know enough cops and ex cops - and like and respect them. They are good people. The only timr any of them drew their service weapon was to dispatch a mortally crippled deer.

So you have implicit bias, and can't look past that.  Good to know for the future.

Too be fair, most cops are decent people. OLB happens to not have had to deal with any bad cops and I'm sure a lot of people (especially white people) have similar experiences, especially in more rural communities. OTH, the cops in America steadily kill around a thousand people a year. I'm sure many of those are unavoidable, but it doesn't take very many bad cops to be a very serious problem. What's weird is that OLB seems to think his personal interactions with local cops trump anything else happening in the country.

[Rev. Rye]

Well, it’s nice to see Biker advertising his arguments long before he actually makes them.

And before he says he’s accusing Anomolocaris, I’d like to remind Biker that he himself was the one who brought the subject and claimed that the odds of getting shot are Comparable to getting struck by lightning. Explaining why the argument you made doesn’t work is not moving the goalposts.

They clearly are real.  One murdered two people the other day.  Fortunately, school hasn't been in session long enough for yet another tragedy.  One upside to the virus.  Your imagination of others imaginations is imaginary.

Don't play that shit.

My response was quite clear. There are of course armed idiots running around from time to time.

Of course people get hit by lightning too.

At roughly the same rate.