Protestors Storm Capital

[Rev. Rye]

Ultimately, they're terrified of becoming minorities - because that would be bad.

[Spongebob]

No, Rome disappeared because the system of rule it created simply fell apart because it wasn't capable of holding together a polity of that size, and more importantly because it couldn't check the ambitions of sucessful generals or senators.

The thing is the Germanic tribes only really started winning against Rome when they became Roman.

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Sorry, that's an oversimplification.  Rome did become far too large to be ruled effectively by one Emperor and for a time it was actually ruled by 4.  But the ultimate reason it collapsed was because of the influx of non-Romans into the Italian peninsula who didn't have the same cultural background as the Romans.  It was simply a cultural shift.  But that happened because Rome has spread so far and wide that it had engulphed too many non-roman cultures.  Pressure from Eastern powers (Hans and others) kept pushing the Germanic peoples (many different ones) into the Italian peninsula.  They were accepted and ostensibly indoctrinated as Romans, but of course they never were and eventually the region's culture was no longer Roman at all.  During it's last vestiges, the Western Empire was not ruled by Romans, but by Germans (who considered themselves Romans).  It was the Roman empire in name only.  But even that explanation is abbreviated.  The idea that ambitions of generals or senators was the problem is incredibly short sighted.  That sort of thing began during the republic days, over 1,000 years before the collapse in 476.  If you were a Roman general, you had crazy ambition, except for Cincinnatus, of course.  And even he was a badass!

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Ultimately, they're terrified of becoming minorities - because that would be bad.

I freakin' love this meme!

[Fireball]

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They're not allowed to own and/or murder black people with impunity.

I mean, it's a bit more complicated - but not by much.  There really are legitimate issues for what we might call or they perceive themselves as - as a demographic..and the rhetoric wouldn't be as effective unless it could manipulate some lever of real truth.  

Ultimately, they're terrified of becoming minorities - because that would be bad.

I'm reminded of the old Robin Williams routine where he's an old man sitting on a park bench, reminiscing, "...I remember when the aliens landed. They were black, and 8 feet tall, and they were pissed!..."

[arewethereyet]

Capitol rioters and protesters are being identified and losing their jobs (msn.com)

So, these terrorists are being identified and some are losing their jobs.  One particularly dopey looking guy who posed next to goat man in some photos was wearing his work ID tag...DOH!  So, perhaps not the best and brightest were involved...j/s

But in the above article...here is my favorite line...in bold...read it twice and take it in...what happened yesterday was a goof up by the media.  This asswipe was a college professor FFS.

"I decided to resign for the betterment of the school," Saccone , a news outlet in Western Pennsylvania, about his departure. "I've been there 21 years. I didn't want all this terrible media kerfuffle to tarnish the school. I decided it would be better if I just resigned."

[Pat Mustard]

No, Rome disappeared because the system of rule it created simply fell apart because it wasn't capable of holding together a polity of that size, and more importantly because it couldn't check the ambitions of sucessful generals or senators.

The thing is the Germanic tribes only really started winning against Rome when they became Roman.

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Sorry, that's an oversimplification.  Rome did become far too large to be ruled effectively by one Emperor and for a time it was actually ruled by 4.  But the ultimate reason it collapsed was because of the influx of non-Romans into the Italian peninsula who didn't have the same cultural background as the Romans.  It was simply a cultural shift.  But that happened because Rome has spread so far and wide that it had engulphed too many non-roman cultures.  Pressure from Eastern powers (Hans and others) kept pushing the Germanic peoples (many different ones) into the Italian peninsula.  They were accepted and ostensibly indoctrinated as Romans, but of course they never were and eventually the region's culture was no longer Roman at all.  During it's last vestiges, the Western Empire was not ruled by Romans, but by Germans (who considered themselves Romans).  It was the Roman empire in name only.  But even that explanation is abbreviated.  The idea that ambitions of generals or senators was the problem is incredibly short sighted.  That sort of thing began during the republic days, over 1,000 years before the collapse in 476.  If you were a Roman general, you had crazy ambition, except for Cincinnatus, of course.  And even he was a badass!

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I freakin' love this meme!

And your analysis is just plain wrong. Germanic tribes didn't enter into former Roman territories only after Roman power had collapsed in those areas. Look at Roman Britain, that wasn't lost until the then governor pulled out the legions as he thought he cold become emperor by force. And Gaul was largely lost by his actions too because the civil war he started drained the Rhenish legions of their manpower.

It wasn't outside forces causing the collapse of the empire, it was outside forces exploiting the collaps of the empire.

[Duty]

150,000,000 citizens of USA. 1,500 storm the capitol. 0.001% of the population (can't be arsed to actually work out the precise figures - attack of the obscure internet forum anomaly phenomenon).

[Deesse23]

150,000,000 citizens of USA. 1,500 storm the capitol. 0.001% of the population (can't be arsed to actually work out the precise figures - attack of the obscure internet forum anomaly phenomenon).

USA actually has 320mio citizens


Germany 1923 has about 80mio ciizens. 2.000 citizens march on the "Feldherrenhalle" during the "Beer Hall Putsch". 16 nazis and policemen killed. Your point was....?

[Duty]

My point was that the VAST majority of US citizens...er...fair call...don't do what Trump asks? Are sane? Something like that Deesse23

[The Grand Nudger]

The vast majority of iraqis and afghanis never flew a plane into a building, either. It's not hard to avoid becoming a terrorist, there won't be any "I didn't commit treason today" medals being handed out.

This was the logical terminus of trumpism. In that others failed to answer the call, they failed to follow through on the convictions of their movement.

[Deesse23]

My point was that the VAST majority of US citizens...er...fair call...don't do what Trump asks? Are sane? Something like that Deesse23

So did most german citizens in 1923. 40+% voted for Trump, only 6% for Adolf in 1924.
I suspect you probably still dont get it.