A simple argument against God

[Gwaithmir]

Prove God does not exist.

The burden of proof lies on he who alleges. Religious people should know that I’m perfectly willing to believe in god(s), ghosts, mediums, demons, angels, spirits, channeling, miracles, horoscopes, astrology, psychics, Ouija boards, the supernatural, and anything else for that matter as long as they adhere to one proviso: Prove it! Don’t give me speculation, guesses, hopes, dreams, wishes, desires, beliefs, faith (or appeals to faith), or indoctrinations. Don’t give me one-time-only, non-repeatable, non-testable events. Don’t give me internal alterations in one’s psychology or physiology that can’t be tested observed, or demonstrated, only felt or believed. And don’t give me effects that can’t be clearly related to the supposed cause.

I have no objection to believing in a god as long as proof based upon a rational standard of knowledge is forthcoming. Is that too much to ask? But surely theists can’t expect me to adopt their beliefs on the basis of what has been presented thus far. Every “proof” I’ve heard and every piece of evidence I’ve seen for the existence of god(s) is easily countered by rational evidence and arguments to the contrary. No convincing evidence for the existence of any deity has ever emerged. But I’m more than willing to listen to theistic arguments or view theistic evidence as long as cross-examination is permitted. As conditions now stand, theology rests far more on superstition and faith than upon facts and reason.

[The Architect Of Fate]

God always existed. He is not the cause of existence, but is existence. Creation is a manifestation of the eternal existence, not separate from it.

Yup was at some point floating around in total nothingness all by itself divorced from anything.....

Religion is one hell of a drug.

[The Architect Of Fate]

More fanfic!  This is my lucky day.

Oh, come now. Even the worst internet fanfiction isn't as batshit as this.

[The Architect Of Fate]

So God doesn't exist because of your image of what God should be or what someone else believes are his characteristics?

That's exactly right. When I'm told that a Being exists whose characteristics are mutually incompatible to the point of logical impossibility, I opt not to believe. We can test this pretty easily: list what you think are God's characteristics.

Boru

Mysterious ways ....

[Mister Agenda]

So God doesn't exist because of your image of what God should be or what someone else believes are his characteristics?

What's your image of what God is and what do you believe are his characteristics?

[Mister Agenda]

I don't think there was a time when there "wasn't". Everything that exists now always existed. We're all a manifestation of that eternal existence. How does that preclude God?

It would seem to preclude God from having brought existence into existence.

[Lek]

Prove God does not exist.

The burden of proof lies on he who alleges. Religious people should know that I’m perfectly willing to believe in god(s), ghosts, mediums, demons, angels, spirits, channeling, miracles, horoscopes, astrology, psychics, Ouija boards, the supernatural, and anything else for that matter as long as they adhere to one proviso: Prove it! Don’t give me speculation, guesses, hopes, dreams, wishes, desires, beliefs, faith (or appeals to faith), or indoctrinations. Don’t give me one-time-only, non-repeatable, non-testable events. Don’t give me internal alterations in one’s psychology or physiology that can’t be tested observed, or demonstrated, only felt or believed. And don’t give me effects that can’t be clearly related to the supposed cause.

I have no objection to believing in a god as long as proof based upon a rational standard of knowledge is forthcoming. Is that too much to ask? But surely theists can’t expect me to adopt their beliefs on the basis of what has been presented thus far. Every “proof” I’ve heard and every piece of evidence I’ve seen for the existence of god(s) is easily countered by rational evidence and arguments to the contrary. No convincing evidence for the existence of any deity has ever emerged. But I’m more than willing to listen to theistic arguments or view theistic evidence as long as cross-examination is permitted. As conditions now stand, theology rests far more on superstition and faith than upon facts and reason.

I can't force anyone to believe. I enjoy the discussion, but the decision to believe in God or not can only be made by each individual.

[Lek]

So God doesn't exist because of your image of what God should be or what someone else believes are his characteristics?

What's your image of what God is and what do you believe are his characteristics?

I see God as being infinite existence. He is the supreme consciousness. Everything that exists is a manifestation of God. We all are the essence of God. Think of a finger on your body. It is part of your body, but not the whole body. God is all and we are in God. That's just my image of God. We can know his presence, but at the same time, not understand him.

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

What's your image of what God is and what do you believe are his characteristics?

I see God as being infinite existence.  He is the supreme consciousness. Everything that exists is a manifestation of God. We all are the essence of God. Think of a finger on your body. It is part of your body, but not the whole body. God is all and we are in God. That's just my image of God. We can know his presence,  but at the same time,  not understand him.

That's lovely and all, but what are God's characteristics?

Boru

[Pat Mustard]

And how does this trivially true statement help you prove that the voices in your head are god?

I don't have any voices "in my head".

If you believe in a god or multiple gods, you do.