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RE: Attn: Christians, We've Heard Them Already
June 4, 2013 at 11:41 am
Isn't it hilarious - the amount of resistance encountered at the simple suggestion that something new be brought to the table. Seems that those so inclined know precisely how little they have - and precisely how stale that morsel is to begin with.
Just my two cents.
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RE: Attn: Christians, We've Heard Them Already
June 4, 2013 at 12:05 pm
I haven't read through all of this, but I have noticed that atheist start post about the same old thing time and again, so that's ok I suppose. They also bring up ridiculous arguments, such as if God asked, insert ridiculous question here, would you do it. You guys know better than to asked stupid questions and if you do not then let me say it makes you look stupid.
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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RE: Attn: Christians, We've Heard Them Already
June 4, 2013 at 12:08 pm
(June 4, 2013 at 12:05 pm)Godschild Wrote: You guys know better than to asked stupid questions and if you do not then let me say it makes you look stupid.
And we're all so concerned with what your brilliant, academic mind considers stupid. 
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Re: RE: Attn: Christians, We've Heard Them Already
June 4, 2013 at 12:18 pm
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(June 4, 2013 at 10:58 am)thesummerqueen Wrote: When atheist arguments become too repetitive, we'll make subforums for those too. It's need based.
Hahaha
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RE: Attn: Christians, We've Heard Them Already
June 4, 2013 at 12:20 pm
We could also make a special thread for fr0d0's mindless trolls.
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RE: Attn: Christians, We've Heard Them Already
June 4, 2013 at 2:52 pm
Swimming in a circular pool looking for the ladder is quite tiresome. I agreed whole heartedly with Deist Paladins referral to his past discussion in hopes of moving forward in the discussion. Whats wrong with actually wanting to make headway on an argument? I too am frustrated with the invisible ceilings that we can't seem to get through. I for one would like very much to move forward but unfortunately that means growth on the part of theists. So, not really expecting much. At least Drich watched a video. At least he tries.
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RE: Attn: Christians, We've Heard Them Already
June 4, 2013 at 2:54 pm
Thank you John V and Ideologue. You've reminded me of another oft-repeated tactic:
The Hurt Feelings Card
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Re: RE: Attn: Christians, We've Heard Them Already
June 4, 2013 at 2:59 pm
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(June 4, 2013 at 12:20 pm)thesummerqueen Wrote: We could also make a special thread for fr0d0's mindless trolls.
Here's looking at you 
I'm reminded of Tiberius' recent post where he said atheism needs new arguments to counter the new ideas coming from theists.
Listening to each other and learning is key. Moronic pleas like the OP only serve to entrench ignorance.
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RE: Attn: Christians, We've Heard Them Already
June 4, 2013 at 3:05 pm
Actually, he's trying to lay out the things we've already heard so that we can actually come up with new things - atheist and theist alike.
But thanks for the added martyrdom.
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RE: Attn: Christians, We've Heard Them Already
June 4, 2013 at 3:07 pm
(June 4, 2013 at 9:42 am)John V Wrote: @OP:
People have been debating this stuff for centuries. If you limit debate to things you haven't heard before, you might as well close up shop.
Linking people to a thread where their argument is being or has been discussed is not limiting debate, it's speeding it up.
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