Why the Bible is true

[Vincenzo Vinny G.]

Verbose shithead, isn't he?

When Hitchens is verbose he's delightful.
But if anyone is verbose who has a different opinion..."SCREW HIM MAN!"
Lol what a fail in critical thinking.

As for the video, I'm about halfway through, and he doesn't discuss "Why the Bible is true" at all so far. Granted, the question was ridiculously broad. Had me LOLing.

EDIT: At 5:00 he makes a very testable claim about the Bible. That the Bible predicts a historical event, ie that of Alexander and his empire's future. Can we verify his claim? I'm too uninterested to do so, but if someone can falsify it, I'd love to see how.

[Something completely different]

So now you start poisoning other threads?!

[Minimalist]

When Hitchens got verbose he had something important to say...unlike this constant jesus prattle which never changes and never says anything useful.

Oh, and fuck off.

[Vincenzo Vinny G.]

When Hitchens got verbose he had something important to say...unlike this constant jesus prattle which never changes and never says anything useful.

Oh, and fuck off.

Congrats, you win.

Atheism: 1
Reason: 0

smh I hope people like you never have any kind of power or authority in any system whatsoever. I cannot even imagine what you would do to your own children, if you are so incapable of reason.

[Neo-Scholastic]

...how can believers live their lives knowing that there just might be some in accuracies or inconsistencies? As you say, shouldn't the Bible be 100 percent perfect coming from an all-knowing, all-powerful god...

Only if you insist on a strictly literal interpretation, which is a very small but highly vocal, minority of Christians. For an atheist to reflexively dismiss the Bible because it isn't 100% accurate when interpreted literally is to make the same mistake.

[Beta Ray Bill]

...how can believers live their lives knowing that there just might be some in accuracies or inconsistencies? As you say, shouldn't the Bible be 100 percent perfect coming from an all-knowing, all-powerful god...

Only if you insist on a strictly literal interpretation, which is a very small but highly vocal, minority of Christians. For an atheist to reflexively dismiss the Bible because it isn't 100% accurate when interpreted literally is to make the same mistake.

No, it's just obvious that the errors, contradictions and atrocities are just too great of a factor to just ignore. Defenders of the Bible can't just pick the good and reword the bad. If they do, they're ignoring what the true meaning of the Bible is. You can't just apply ad hoc theories to say the literal interpretations aren't what was truly meant. Ancient Jews didn't, and neither should modern Christians.

[konroh]

2 “Do you see all these things?” he asked. “Truly I tell you, not one stone here will be left on another; every one will be thrown down.”

A situation which did not happen until 135 when Hadrian leveled the ruins in order to build the new Roman city of Aelia Capitolina right on top of it. The shitwits hate to hear that, too.

In comparing all the gospel accounts, it appears that, "this generation shall not pass away until all these things take place" may have added meanings. What are "these things" that Jesus is referring to? In one account it seems to reference that the disciples Jesus was talking to would see the destruction of the temple, a situation that did happen in 70 AD, but did not reach fulfillment until AD 135 when every stone was thrown down. In another account Jesus was referring to "these things" as the sign of his coming, when "this generation" saw the fulfillment of those signs "in the sun, moon, and stars; and there will be anguish on the earth among nations bewildered by the roaring sea and waves" and "Then they will see the Son of Man coming in a cloud with power and great glory".

I recognize that this may just be an example to you of a "shitwit" (great term, BTW) talking out of both sides of his mouth, but this type of "telescopic fulfillment" has a lot of precedent in ancient literature. Like looking into the heavens and seeing stars, but you can't tell how much of a distance lies between two stars that you see. In the same way, looking into the future you speak of different events but there may be intervals of time between them. "I hope that I'll be married some day and have a kid before I die." This references 4 timeframes, now, future marriage, future kid, future death. What gaps of time there are between those events are different for each one of us. I am married with a kid and I hope the interval until my death is a long, long time--you might hope I die pretty soon, which is your right, even though it doesn't seem very nice.

I fully realize that this explanation may just be fuel to your fire, in which case, you're welcome, mock on.

[Doubting Thomas]

So when did this happen?

24:29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:
24:30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.

He says this will also happen before "this generation shall pass from the earth."

[max-greece]

So when did this happen?

24:29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:
24:30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.

He says this will also happen before "this generation shall pass from the earth."

You mean you missed it - christ! What a fucking night that was. If it hadn't been for the 5 cans of Stella I might not have made it through.

[Doubting Thomas]

I think I had to work that night.