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If these resident theists really talk to god..
RE: If these resident theists really talk to god..
Wait, is this still going? Oh FFS Drich, take it like a man.
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RE: If these resident theists really talk to god..
I don't recall a picture of an African boy. this is bullshit Drich, back up your assertions or stfu. I'd indubitably like to know if it was in the threads I pointed out, seeing as how I'm not lying and I would've stuck up for you had I seen them seeing as how I went specifically on this wild goose chase because I didnt believe you. I legitimately didn't see what you speak of.
If I were to create self aware beings knowing fully what they would do in their lifetimes, I sure wouldn't create a HELL for the majority of them to live in infinitely! That's not Love, that's sadistic. Therefore a truly loving god does not exist!

Quote:The sin is against an infinite being (God) unforgiven infinitely, therefore the punishment is infinite.

Dead wrong.  The actions of a finite being measured against an infinite one are infinitesimal and therefore merit infinitesimal punishment.

Quote:Some people deserve hell.

I say again:  No exceptions.  Punishment should be equal to the crime, not in excess of it.  As soon as the punishment is greater than the crime, the punisher is in the wrong.

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(September 28, 2013 at 5:58 pm)Lemonvariable72 Wrote: All the ones that missluckie posted. Now I want proof of your illness and proof that god cured you.
Just for the record, what Lemonvariable is doing to you, Drich, is what you did to me- except that studying evolutionary biology in graduate school for a PhD as a second career is MUCH less controversial a claim than being cured of AIDS.

You asked me for proof that I am a practicing evolutionary scientist. How about hearing your proof that you had AIDS and it was cured? Surely if this was true your doctor(s) would have eureka'ed it and written it up for a medical journal.

Plus, since I am personally very interested in HIV (a very good friend- a very serious Christian- died of it), I'd love to hear the particulars.
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RE: If these resident theists really talk to god..
Don't hold your breath, Zazzie. Drich is big on big claims and no proof. In fact, it's the basis of his belief system. What's more, you're practically asking the impossible of him. The medical community can rarely tell their lips from their assholes, much less be accurate when it comes to the human body. What it sounds like to me, is Drich has an auto-immune disease. Those cause false positives in viral tests alot. Then he attributes the sores going away to god when in all actuality--and correct me if I'm wrong Drich-- the doctors fixed the problem. Did they give you prednisone and anti-biotics, eh?

Or are you claiming those sores just "miraculously disappeared"? Are you seriously saying that the doctors didn't give you medicine at all for HIV when you had a positive test? Don't tell me you trusted god enough to deny medical treatment, did you?

I know I did that once, for a life threatening illness. Ended up in the ICU for a stint. Turns out: god didn't wanna heal his daughter who gave him her entire life heart mind soul and body.
Well, that or he doesn't exist. Which I consider to be far more gracious a thought than god being a sadistic bastard.
If I were to create self aware beings knowing fully what they would do in their lifetimes, I sure wouldn't create a HELL for the majority of them to live in infinitely! That's not Love, that's sadistic. Therefore a truly loving god does not exist!

Quote:The sin is against an infinite being (God) unforgiven infinitely, therefore the punishment is infinite.

Dead wrong.  The actions of a finite being measured against an infinite one are infinitesimal and therefore merit infinitesimal punishment.

Quote:Some people deserve hell.

I say again:  No exceptions.  Punishment should be equal to the crime, not in excess of it.  As soon as the punishment is greater than the crime, the punisher is in the wrong.

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RE: If these resident theists really talk to god..
Quote:Drich would be more accurately compared to a child dumping quarters into a Galaga arcade after repeatedly crashing.

Drippy is more like a bayonet practice dummy.
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RE: If these resident theists really talk to god..
(September 28, 2013 at 9:12 pm)missluckie26 Wrote: Don't hold your breath, Zazzie. Drich is big on big claims and no proof. In fact, it's the basis of his belief system. What's more, you're practically asking the impossible of him. The medical community can rarely tell their lips from their assholes, much less be accurate when it comes to the human body. What it sounds like to me, is Drich has an auto-immune disease. Those cause false positives in viral tests alot. Then he attributes the sores going away to god when in all actuality--and correct me if I'm wrong Drich-- the doctors fixed the problem. Did they give you prednisone and anti-biotics, eh?

Or are you claiming those sores just "miraculously disappeared"? Are you seriously saying that the doctors didn't give you medicine at all for HIV when you had a positive test? Don't tell me you trusted god enough to deny medical treatment, did you?

I know I did that once, for a life threatening illness. Ended up in the ICU for a stint. Turns out: god didn't wanna heal his daughter who gave him her entire life heart mind soul and body.
Well, that or he doesn't exist. Which I consider to be far more gracious a thought than god being a sadistic bastard.

I could not afford treatment. My affliction was a skin virus so no antibiotics. They started with cryotherapy I had about 100 of these leasions frozen off. (Less than half) I could not take anymore so they were going to finish when I came back. During the time between the tests they disappeared on their own. All I was given through that whole period was a topical ointment and a hand full of gauss for the blisters left after the cryotherapy. I Was told to take Motrin for the pain, and if anything got infected to come back for treatment.

Not everyone gets healed. at first I panicked like anyone else would, and before the end of the day I found complete peace. I was completely ready to accept that I was going to be dead by 21/22 and that was ok. Why? Because I do not worship life. I learned to worship God no matter what He has I store for me. No anger, no resentment, just a request to finish well. To make the time I had left mean something. Sure I was scared, and cried between tests, But I never felt like I was owed anymore than what i was given. Did that have something to do with it? Only God knows for sure.
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And this is what you consider a near death experience?
If I were to create self aware beings knowing fully what they would do in their lifetimes, I sure wouldn't create a HELL for the majority of them to live in infinitely! That's not Love, that's sadistic. Therefore a truly loving god does not exist!

Quote:The sin is against an infinite being (God) unforgiven infinitely, therefore the punishment is infinite.

Dead wrong.  The actions of a finite being measured against an infinite one are infinitesimal and therefore merit infinitesimal punishment.

Quote:Some people deserve hell.

I say again:  No exceptions.  Punishment should be equal to the crime, not in excess of it.  As soon as the punishment is greater than the crime, the punisher is in the wrong.

[Image: tumblr_n1j4lmACk61qchtw3o1_500.gif]
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RE: If these resident theists really talk to god..
(September 28, 2013 at 10:07 pm)Drich Wrote:
(September 28, 2013 at 9:12 pm)missluckie26 Wrote: Don't hold your breath, Zazzie. Drich is big on big claims and no proof. In fact, it's the basis of his belief system. What's more, you're practically asking the impossible of him. The medical community can rarely tell their lips from their assholes, much less be accurate when it comes to the human body. What it sounds like to me, is Drich has an auto-immune disease. Those cause false positives in viral tests alot. Then he attributes the sores going away to god when in all actuality--and correct me if I'm wrong Drich-- the doctors fixed the problem. Did they give you prednisone and anti-biotics, eh?

Or are you claiming those sores just "miraculously disappeared"? Are you seriously saying that the doctors didn't give you medicine at all for HIV when you had a positive test? Don't tell me you trusted god enough to deny medical treatment, did you?

I know I did that once, for a life threatening illness. Ended up in the ICU for a stint. Turns out: god didn't wanna heal his daughter who gave him her entire life heart mind soul and body.
Well, that or he doesn't exist. Which I consider to be far more gracious a thought than god being a sadistic bastard.

I could not afford treatment. My affliction was a skin virus so no antibiotics. They started with cryotherapy I had about 100 of these leasions frozen off. (Less than half) I could not take anymore so they were going to finish when I came back. During the time between the tests they disappeared on their own. All I was given through that whole period was a topical ointment and a hand full of gauss for the blisters left after the cryotherapy. I Was told to take Motrin for the pain, and if anything got infected to come back for treatment.

Not everyone gets healed. at first I panicked like anyone else would, and before the end of the day I found complete peace. I was completely ready to accept that I was going to be dead by 21/22 and that was ok. Why? Because I do not worship life. I learned to worship God no matter what He has I store for me. No anger, no resentment, just a request to finish well. To make the time I had left mean something. Sure I was scared, and cried between tests, But I never felt like I was owed anymore than what i was given. Did that have something to do with it? Only God knows for sure.

I call bullshit on your claim. If it is was true you'd be the second man ever and there would articles on it that you would have linked long ago. So proof that this happened and it was gods work or shut the fuck up you full of shit little asshole.
To-morrow, and to-morrow, and to-morrow,
Creeps in this petty pace from day to day,
To the last syllable of recorded time;
And all our yesterdays have lighted fools
The way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle!
Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player,
That struts and frets his hour upon the stage,
And then is heard no more. It is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing.
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RE: If these resident theists really talk to god..
(September 28, 2013 at 5:58 pm)Lemonvariable72 Wrote:
(September 28, 2013 at 4:21 pm)Drich Wrote: Look Spicoli I am not into ratting people out. There are at least two that I have found myself looking. So I know if the people who said they looked, did indeed look then they saw them as well. Which means they know they are lying, and the people who posted the death wishes know thyat they are lying. Yet they let a man telling the truth be up right persecuted. which gives me an opportunity to point to this 'greater than God morality' you all hold to, and show it for what it really is. A hypocrites mask that has little to no real substance behind it. To me God is better served in this act that in my exauneration. So again I leave it to you.

Which posts did you read?
All the ones that missluckie posted. Now I want proof of your illness and proof that god cured you.

I'm not giving you nor anyone else anything that identifies me to you. You have my word, take it or leave it. Why? Because none of it means anything to you anyway. You only want to see if I can produce something that will silence you, and most of you will speak foolishly anyway. If that is the case then assume I can not and move on. God does not provide the absolute 'proof' for any of you either, at least not before your willing to humble yourselves before him first. Otherwise it is God speaks and you can take it or leave it. I think that is a pretty smart philosophy, so I will be following suit.

If you learn to humble yourselves before God and accept Christ as your savior I will show you all the proof I have. I will show you personal pictures and let you look at what is left of the 100 scares on my arms and shoulders. I'll introduce you to my parents and let you speak to them, my sisters let you speak to them. Ill introduce you to the preacher who ministered to me during this period in my life.

If you never accept Christ then you have my word to go on. Take it or leave it. it makes absolutly no difference to me.

(September 28, 2013 at 10:17 pm)missluckie26 Wrote: And this is what you consider a near death experience?

No.

(September 28, 2013 at 10:23 pm)Lemonvariable72 Wrote:
(September 28, 2013 at 10:07 pm)Drich Wrote: I could not afford treatment. My affliction was a skin virus so no antibiotics. They started with cryotherapy I had about 100 of these leasions frozen off. (Less than half) I could not take anymore so they were going to finish when I came back. During the time between the tests they disappeared on their own. All I was given through that whole period was a topical ointment and a hand full of gauss for the blisters left after the cryotherapy. I Was told to take Motrin for the pain, and if anything got infected to come back for treatment.

Not everyone gets healed. at first I panicked like anyone else would, and before the end of the day I found complete peace. I was completely ready to accept that I was going to be dead by 21/22 and that was ok. Why? Because I do not worship life. I learned to worship God no matter what He has I store for me. No anger, no resentment, just a request to finish well. To make the time I had left mean something. Sure I was scared, and cried between tests, But I never felt like I was owed anymore than what i was given. Did that have something to do with it? Only God knows for sure.

I call bullshit on your claim. If it is was true you'd be the second man ever and there would articles on it that you would have linked long ago. So proof that this happened and it was gods work or shut the fuck up you full of shit little asshole.

This happened in the mid to late 90s I might have been the first. Who knows because back then it was just considered a false positive no matter what the situation was. because back then confirmed aids was always a death sentence. No matter what. (Unless you were magic Johnson and had press and money.)

(September 28, 2013 at 10:23 pm)Lemonvariable72 Wrote:
(September 28, 2013 at 10:07 pm)Drich Wrote: I could not afford treatment. My affliction was a skin virus so no antibiotics. They started with cryotherapy I had about 100 of these leasions frozen off. (Less than half) I could not take anymore so they were going to finish when I came back. During the time between the tests they disappeared on their own. All I was given through that whole period was a topical ointment and a hand full of gauss for the blisters left after the cryotherapy. I Was told to take Motrin for the pain, and if anything got infected to come back for treatment.

Not everyone gets healed. at first I panicked like anyone else would, and before the end of the day I found complete peace. I was completely ready to accept that I was going to be dead by 21/22 and that was ok. Why? Because I do not worship life. I learned to worship God no matter what He has I store for me. No anger, no resentment, just a request to finish well. To make the time I had left mean something. Sure I was scared, and cried between tests, But I never felt like I was owed anymore than what i was given. Did that have something to do with it? Only God knows for sure.

I call bullshit on your claim. If it is was true you'd be the second man ever and there would articles on it that you would have linked long ago. So proof that this happened and it was gods work or shut the fuck up you full of shit little asshole.

This happened in the mid to late 90s I might have been the first. Who knows because back then it was just considered a false positive no matter what the situation was. because back then confirmed aids was always a death sentence. No matter what. (Unless you were magic Johnson and had press and money.)
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RE: If these resident theists really talk to god..
(September 28, 2013 at 10:07 pm)Drich Wrote: My affliction was a skin virus so no antibiotics. They started with cryotherapy I had about 100 of these leasions frozen off. (Less than half) I could not take anymore so they were going to finish when I came back. During the time between the tests they disappeared on their own. All I was given through that whole period was a topical ointment and a hand full of gauss for the blisters left after the cryotherapy. I Was told to take Motrin for the pain, and if anything got infected to come back for treatment.
What skin virus?
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