Atheists and Agnostics risk infinite loss for no gain

[SavedByGraceThruFaith]

For the believer of God, a choice must be made. There is only one clear choice. So the believer again has no difference in Pascal's wager.

You're still dodging the question. Why don't you follow all religions and worship all gods just to make sure you get the right one? You're assuming that you've chosen the only right one.

Pascal's wager says to consider that there is God.

I spent the first 30 years of my life not only considering it, but believing it wholeheartedly.

There are many different versions of God and salvation to consider.

Only the Holy Bible will prove to be true.

Baseless assertion. Please prove your statement.

First step is to argue for the existence of God.

After that, which God.

[Doubting Thomas]

That's because Pascal's Wager presupposes that Christianity is the one true religion and it never occurs to Christians proposing PW that any other religion could be the one true religion (because obviously all those others are just heathen religions invented by Satan).

I think it does occur to them; they just hope it doesn't occur to you.

I'm starting to wonder in this case. It looks like SBG is so "bathed in the blood of the lamb" that he's blinded to anything other than his holy bible being 100% factually true.

[max-greece]

"For the believer of God, a choice must be made. There is only one clear choice. So the believer again has no difference in Pascal's wager."

1.1 billion Moslems appear to disagree with you., along with 500 million Buddhists, 700 million Hindus, 14 million Jews.....

Whilst we are here - what denomination of Christian are you anyway?

[SavedByGraceThruFaith]

"For the believer of God, a choice must be made. There is only one clear choice. So the believer again has no difference in Pascal's wager."

1.1 billion Moslems appear to disagree with you., along with 500 million Buddhists, 700 million Hindus, 14 million Jews.....

Whilst we are here - what denomination of Christian are you anyway?

I do not have a denomination.

Some are good, some are false.

I just believe the Holy Bible and am saved by Jesus Christ.

[Cyberman]

The best analogy to Pascal's wager I can think of is a true gambling story.

---

Canada hosted the Summer Olympics in 1976. To help with the funding the federal government ran a lottery with a prize of $1 million for the first time in Canadian history.

Some poor schmuck was convinced that if he bought enough tickets he had to win. So he mortgaged his house. After all these years I can't swear to the amount he spent, but $40,000 sticks in my mind. Of course he didn't win the big prize. He may have got a couple of $100 prizes.

I can't remember either if he offed himself, but he sure was pissed.

---

I also seem to remember a story about a guy who tried to fix a horse race. He placed a bet on each runner and set up accumulators. He even bribed the jockeys to finish in a specific order. Unfortunately, a thick fog rolled in and the horses that finished did so any old how. He lost a fortune.

[Faith No More]

Well you do have a point that in this world the Christian may be wasting his life if he is wrong. But most Christians live fairly good, happy lives so I am not sure it is so bad.

But the possible infinite loss of the atheist and agnostic may not be worth the imagined temporary gain in this life.

Not wasting your life isn't an imaginary gain. What you're telling us is the possible reward of belief is worth anything you might lose. Not only is the possible reward unlikely given that you cannot prove the soul or the afterlife exist, you want us to spend the one life we know we have based on that possible, yet extremely unlikely, reward.

You will never convince anyone with such tripe.

[Doubting Thomas]

First step is to argue for the existence of God.

After that, which God.

Well you're going to be stuck on that first step forever, because nobody throughout history has ever been able to prove God's existence. Nor have they ever even been able to give a decent argument for his existence.

[pocaracas]

Only the Holy Bible will prove to be true.

A muslim will say the same about his qu'ran.
And many muslims have written so right here on this forum.
Now... being impartial as I am, I have to ask, who is trying to deceive me? Could both be trying to deceive me?

[bladevalant546]

I have a question for you, it is a simple answer. God gets credit for all the good things that happen in your life right? Does he also get credit for the bad things?

[pocaracas]

First step is to argue for the existence of God.

After that, which God.

Well you're going to be stuck on that first step forever, because nobody throughout history has ever been able to prove God's existence. Nor have they ever even been able to give a decent argument for his existence.

Operative word being "decent".

Many arguments have been proposed... Many believers stand by a few of those arguments and just can't understand why we don't consider them "decent".