Islam is true path of our lives

[Fidel_Castronaut]

But Iran is the only true Muslim country today. An in fact they have the Number 1 scientific growth.

Can't forget about the Muslims of the hundreds of years leading to the crusades who paved the way for modern sciences, mathematics, medicine either.

Iran is in the number one in scientific growth??

You mean that country that is still trying to develop nuclear fission over half a century after the majority of the developed world managed to achieve it?

I guess when you're starting off with a Society that throws rocks at each other the development of a bow and arrow is a major leap forward.

[Natachan]

No....

Everyone values life. Do you not value life? Humans value a sense of fairness and justice, this has been shown by studying infants. Humans value happiness and joy. These are OBJECTIVE HUMAN VALUES that all people can access. Building on this you could form an objective system of morality that bases itself on values that are available to all people.

[Brian37]

Islam is the most logical path with all beliefs practical and implement able within society.

Islam is the most beautiful because the morals, virtues it exemplifies even secular students of morals and ethics admit it as the standard of morality in humans life.

I ask all atheists here to

1. worship only Allah.
2. Live with peace, kindness, respect of others
3. Don't attack anybody first, only use self defense as the Quran states
4. Give to the poor and orphans
5. Ask me any questions regarding Islam

It's the true path and when you are on it your life will improve mentally and possibly materialistically as well

I ask you,

1. Mind your own fucking business. You do not own me.
2. Peace, yes, but through common law, not theocracy.
3. Don't attack physically, agree. But claims do not deserve taboo status.
4. You don't need a religion or god to take care of the poor and weak.
5. I have no questions about fictional sky heros other than to ask what year you think this is. We have telescopes and microscopes now.

Now do not throw a hissy fit because I picked on Allah. If you claimed your god was Vishnu or Thor it would mean exactly the same to me. I only owe you the value of non violence. I do not owe you, or even my fellow atheists claims blind value with no evidence.

Do not come in here thinking we are lost puppies to save. We don't like it when Christians do that either.

[Cyberman]

The Quran is sufficient enough for me.

I'm happy for you. Can you answer my question now, please?

[OceanWave]

@OceanWave
-You can listen to what Christians say that's your business. It's obvious there are differences between Islam and Christianity
Yes, there are differences. But there is also one similarity: both claim to be the ultimate truth. They can't both be true at the same time. How can I know that you're telling the truth, while the other side says that you're wrong and that they're telling the truth?

-Allah never says infidels should be killed just for being polytheist a. That's untrue.
Well, if that's the case, why does He command the Muslims to kill them? Why does He want them dead? The Quran does not mention any provocation on the polytheistic side, Allah just commands His followers to slaughter them for just being "infidels".

-Allah can not be comprehended by sight 100% , that's the finite answer
Alright, thanks.

I think you like trying to go in circles without using common sense. On fact, that's been prescribed upon you. This ignorance. No verse suggest killing innocent polytheists. So you're simply stating a lie here.


For those with common sense it's clear why Islam is superior to Christianity. Bible has verses condoning killing babies, and infants. It also states Jesus ( their God) does not know the Day of Judgement, so they're worshipping somebody not All-Knowing . These are just two examples. Whether you choose to fail to understand these types of differences is solely on you.

[Dystopia]

No....

Everyone values life. Do you not value life? Humans value a sense of fairness and justice, this has been shown by studying infants. Humans value happiness and joy. These are OBJECTIVE HUMAN VALUES that all people can access. Building on this you could form an objective system of morality that bases itself on values that are available to all people.

Your view is the one I completely corroborate, you expressed it better than I would have... I believe there is a central minimum core of human values, something that is highly related to human rights, we can have an idea of those by reading the declaration of HR... And I believe the rest of morals are relative values and people can make their judgement. For instance, many people consider murder immoral even in cases of self defense according to the requirement of necessity. I don't consider murder in cases of self defense, when it's the only available mean, something immoral, but a survival instinct

[OceanWave]

Islam is the most logical path with all beliefs practical and implement able within society.

Islam is the most beautiful because the morals, virtues it exemplifies even secular students of morals and ethics admit it as the standard of morality in humans life.

I ask all atheists here to

1. worship only Allah.
2. Live with peace, kindness, respect of others
3. Don't attack anybody first, only use self defense as the Quran states
4. Give to the poor and orphans
5. Ask me any questions regarding Islam

It's the true path and when you are on it your life will improve mentally and possibly materialistically as well

I ask you,

1. Mind your own fucking business. You do not own me.
2. Peace, yes, but through common law, not theocracy.
3. Don't attack physically, agree. But claims do not deserve taboo status.
4. You don't need a religion or god to take care of the poor and weak.
5. I have no questions about fictional sky heros other than to ask what year you think this is. We have telescopes and microscopes now.

Now do not throw a hissy fit because I picked on Allah. If you claimed your god was Vishnu or Thor it would mean exactly the same to me. I only owe you the value of non violence. I do not owe you, or even my fellow atheists claims blind value with no evidence.

Do not come in here thinking we are lost puppies to save. We don't like it when Christians do that either.

Thanks for making it clear I don't own you. I wanted to get this rational response of your cleared up. Thanks !

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No....

Everyone values life. Do you not value life? Humans value a sense of fairness and justice, this has been shown by studying infants. Humans value happiness and joy. These are OBJECTIVE HUMAN VALUES that all people can access. Building on this you could form an objective system of morality that bases itself on values that are available to all people.

Your view is the one I completely corroborate, you expressed it better than I would have... I believe there is a central minimum core of human values, something that is highly related to human rights, we can have an idea of those by reading the declaration of HR... And I believe the rest of morals are relative values and people can make their judgement. For instance, many people consider murder immoral even in cases of self defense according to the requirement of necessity. I don't consider murder in cases of self defense, when it's the only available mean, something immoral, but a survival instinct

You just proved atheists relativism once again again by stating you believe in a central minimum values. That's your belief, not everyone else's though.

[Dystopia]

I think you like trying to go in circles without using common sense. On fact, that's been prescribed upon you. This ignorance. No verse suggest killing innocent polytheists. So you're simply stating a lie here.

You are either very dumb or refuse to read phrases fully... I will repeat it, common sense is not allowed in a rational debate. If you are saying your religion is the one because of common sense, then I could say the same about atheism... After all, isn't it common sense to lack belief in things that have never been proven?

For those with common sense it's clear why Islam is superior to Christianity. Bible has verses condoning killing babies, and infants. It also states Jesus ( their God) does not know the Day of Judgement, so they're worshipping somebody not All-Knowing . These are just two examples. Whether you choose to fail to understand these types of differences is solely on you.

Except that Islam is highly inferior to western values.

[OceanWave]

No....

Everyone values life. Do you not value life? Humans value a sense of fairness and justice, this has been shown by studying infants. Humans value happiness and joy. These are OBJECTIVE HUMAN VALUES that all people can access. Building on this you could form an objective system of morality that bases itself on values that are available to all people.

Serial killers and suicide bombers value life also? Don't be silly. You're running into a dead end here.

[Natachan]

"You just proved atheists relativism once again again by stating you believe in a central minimum values. That's your belief, not everyone else's though."

Any person who does not believe that every person has a right to their own life is an immoral person by any standard of judgement.