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RE: Islam is true path of our lives
July 13, 2014 at 2:18 pm
(July 13, 2014 at 12:17 pm)Cato Wrote: (July 13, 2014 at 11:02 am)OceanWave Wrote: We got a big timer philosopher here stating the obvious. Lol
Obviously there is no single atheist ethical viewpoint. That's the problem here.
Just as I thought, you've got nothing. Why the fuck is it that the supreme creator of the universe (pick your flavor) always dispatches dolts to do his/her bidding?
Makes no sense to me at all to claim the attribute of all powerful only to have it need help from puny finite humans.
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RE: Islam is true path of our lives
July 13, 2014 at 2:59 pm
I see I'm twelve pages late to the party:
(July 13, 2014 at 1:52 am)OceanWave Wrote: Islam is the most logical path with all beliefs practical and implement able within society. There's nothing logical about Islam. It asks one to believe without proof. That is illogical.
(July 12, 2014 at 10:38 pm)alexwenzel Wrote: Islam is the most beautiful because the morals, virtues it exemplifies even secular students of morals and ethics admit it as the standard of morality in humans life. I'd like to see some citations to these secular students of morals you mention.
Meanwhile back in the Koran, what about these: 164 Jihad Verses in the Koran Compiled by Yoel Natan
(July 13, 2014 at 1:52 am)OceanWave Wrote: I ask all atheists here to
1. worship only Allah. Prove his existence and then we will talk about whether worshiping him is a good idea.
(July 13, 2014 at 1:52 am)OceanWave Wrote: 2. Live with peace, kindness, respect of others
3. Don't attack anybody first, only use self defense as the Quran states You are making that difficult at the moment. More importantly, looking at current Islamic states, and the number of Islamic terrorists it seems to me that if the Koran says to live in peace and kindness, Muslims are missing the message.
(July 13, 2014 at 1:52 am)OceanWave Wrote: 4. Give to the poor and orphans I do give to charities.
(July 13, 2014 at 1:52 am)OceanWave Wrote: 5. Ask me any questions regarding Islam Judging from this thread you don't seem interested in actually answering questions, at least not hard ones.
(July 13, 2014 at 1:52 am)OceanWave Wrote: It's the true path and when you are on it your life will improve mentally and possibly materialistically as well Judging from the state of Islamic countries and the circumstances there, Islam seems to be toxic to both mental health and prosperity.
I'll pass on your offer.
If there is a god, I want to believe that there is a god. If there is not a god, I want to believe that there is no god.
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RE: Islam is true path of our lives
July 13, 2014 at 3:07 pm
(July 13, 2014 at 1:52 am)OceanWave Wrote: Islam is the most logical path with all beliefs practical and implement able within society.
Islam is the most beautiful because the morals, virtues it exemplifies even secular students of morals and ethics admit it as the standard of morality in humans life.
I ask all atheists here to
1. worship only Allah.
2. Live with peace, kindness, respect of others
3. Don't attack anybody first, only use self defense as the Quran states
4. Give to the poor and orphans
5. Ask me any questions regarding Islam
It's the true path and when you are on it your life will improve mentally and possibly materialistically as well
Christian prosletysing has no effect on us other than to make us roll our eyes and call out their bullshit.
So, you can imagine just how prosletysing for a religion that hasn't dragged itself out of the middle ages and treats women as property is going to be taken by this atheist woman.
Or perhaps you can't imagine, so I'll put it into words: You can take your religion, and your imaginary skyman, put them into your little book of fables, and go away. (I'm being polite. I don't usually do so with people who come onto an ATHEIST website and start prosletysing. And I don't do it twice . . .)
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RE: Islam is true path of our lives
July 13, 2014 at 3:09 pm
(This post was last modified: July 13, 2014 at 3:11 pm by OceanWave.)
If you do good thing life that's fine, it's also good to be humble about your activities.
(July 13, 2014 at 2:59 pm)Jenny A Wrote: I see I'm twelve pages late to the party:
(July 13, 2014 at 1:52 am)OceanWave Wrote: Islam is the most logical path with all beliefs practical and implement able within society. There's nothing logical about Islam. It asks one to believe without proof. That is illogical.
(July 12, 2014 at 10:38 pm)alexwenzel Wrote: Islam is the most beautiful because the morals, virtues it exemplifies even secular students of morals and ethics admit it as the standard of morality in humans life. I'd like to see some citations to these secular students of morals you mention.
Meanwhile back in the Koran, what about these: 164 Jihad Verses in the Koran Compiled by Yoel Natan
(July 13, 2014 at 1:52 am)OceanWave Wrote: I ask all atheists here to
1. worship only Allah. Prove his existence and then we will talk about whether worshiping him is a good idea.
(July 13, 2014 at 1:52 am)OceanWave Wrote: 2. Live with peace, kindness, respect of others
3. Don't attack anybody first, only use self defense as the Quran states You are making that difficult at the moment. More importantly, looking at current Islamic states, and the number of Islamic terrorists it seems to me that if the Koran says to live in peace and kindness, Muslims are missing the message.
(July 13, 2014 at 1:52 am)OceanWave Wrote: 4. Give to the poor and orphans I do give to charities.
(July 13, 2014 at 1:52 am)OceanWave Wrote: 5. Ask me any questions regarding Islam Judging from this thread you don't seem interested in actually answering questions, at least not hard ones.
(July 13, 2014 at 1:52 am)OceanWave Wrote: It's the true path and when you are on it your life will improve mentally and possibly materialistically as well Judging from the state of Islamic countries and the circumstances there, Islam seems to be toxic to both mental health and prosperity.
I'll pass on your offer.
The proof is in the world aroud you. How everything happens in sequence, everything is perfect, the circumstances for life to form on this earth happening is less than 1 to the 10th billionth power. There are many signs like the Quran states, for those who understand.
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RE: Islam is true path of our lives
July 13, 2014 at 3:19 pm
(July 13, 2014 at 3:09 pm)OceanWave Wrote: If you do good thing life that's fine, it's also good to be humble about your activities.
(July 13, 2014 at 2:59 pm)Jenny A Wrote: I see I'm twelve pages late to the party:
There's nothing logical about Islam. It asks one to believe without proof. That is illogical.
I'd like to see some citations to these secular students of morals you mention.
Meanwhile back in the Koran, what about these: 164 Jihad Verses in the Koran Compiled by Yoel Natan
Prove his existence and then we will talk about whether worshiping him is a good idea.
You are making that difficult at the moment. More importantly, looking at current Islamic states, and the number of Islamic terrorists it seems to me that if the Koran says to live in peace and kindness, Muslims are missing the message.
I do give to charities.
Judging from this thread you don't seem interested in actually answering questions, at least not hard ones.
Judging from the state of Islamic countries and the circumstances there, Islam seems to be toxic to both mental health and prosperity.
I'll pass on your offer.
The proof is in the world aroud you. How everything happens in sequence, everything is perfect, the circumstances for life to form on this earth happening is less than 1 to the 10th billionth power. There are many signs like the Quran states, for those who understand.
Argument from ignorance: I don't understand the complexity of the world so <insert name of imaginary friend here>.
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RE: Islam is true path of our lives
July 13, 2014 at 3:20 pm
Go Blow Allah Out Your Ass
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RE: Islam is true path of our lives
July 13, 2014 at 3:22 pm
I trust Allah knows what to do with this.
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RE: Islam is true path of our lives
July 13, 2014 at 3:24 pm
(July 13, 2014 at 10:38 am)OceanWave Wrote: Very silly post. Muslims have explained countless times those actions aren't related to Islam.
In fact you can look at the primary source, the Quran and it will give you the answer about killing innocents. The knowledge is there, you just have to read it.
Way to pass the buck, as if it's my responsibility to sift through your holy book to prove what Islam truly is. You're so upset that the west demonizes Islam, but when you get the chance to show what you think Islam truly is(remember, you came to us), you suddenly don't care enough to put any effort into it.
You're just proving my point that Islam's problem isn't the West's portrayal, but it's the moderates that blame the West instead of the asshole terrorists. In fact, you mentioning the West's coverage but not the terrorists makes me think that you're not actually that bothered by all of the killing in the name of Islam.
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RE: Islam is true path of our lives
July 13, 2014 at 3:24 pm
(July 13, 2014 at 3:22 pm)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote: I trust Allah knows what to do with this.
I know I know, sit on it.
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RE: Islam is true path of our lives
July 13, 2014 at 3:33 pm
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