Why I am so passionate about speaking out against feminism.

[Bad Wolf]

OK, I caught up a little bit. He went on to say, "I realise that the majority of feminists aren't like that, but still I have a bad association with the feminist movement because of it," which is pretty much what I said. So what's the problem?

What happened to 'didn't read em, don't care'? Decided not to be so ignorant?
Do you honestly believe that I am capable of recognising and admitting that I have a bad association with feminism, yet am not capable of overcoming this through simple reason and evidence?

[John V]

No, it's not "pretty much what you said". Reading comprehension goes a long way bud. He said that he acknowledges the fact that most feminists aren't like that, but his gut response to it is a negative one. He certainly isn't stereotyping all feminsts, which would be if he did say "all/most feminists are like this", which is the opposite of what he did say.

You know what they say...everything before the "but" is bullshit. At best you can say that he took both sides in a single sentence. You're correct that the first part does not stereotype, but the second part clearly does. "The feminist movement" is indeed equivalent to "all/most feminists."

Uh..and not to mention, that was like the fourth or so post of the entire thread. Not much of a catch-up.

When I get to the answer, I stop reading.

[FatAndFaithless]

No, it's not "pretty much what you said". Reading comprehension goes a long way bud. He said that he acknowledges the fact that most feminists aren't like that, but his gut response to it is a negative one. He certainly isn't stereotyping all feminsts, which would be if he did say "all/most feminists are like this", which is the opposite of what he did say.

You know what they say...everything before the "but" is bullshit. At best you can say that he took both sides in a single sentence. You're correct that the first part does not stereotype, but the second part clearly does. "The feminist movement" is indeed equivalent to "all/most feminists."

Uh..and not to mention, that was like the fourth or so post of the entire thread. Not much of a catch-up.

When I get to the answer, I stop reading.

That seems to be how you go about your theism too. Very dishonest. Try addressing Bad Wolf's response.

[John V]

Do you honestly believe that I am capable of recognising and admitting that I have a bad association with feminism, yet am not capable of overcoming this through simple reason and evidence?

Yeah, that seems to be the case. Sometimes the longest distance is from the head to the heart.

[FatAndFaithless]

[Bad Wolf]

You know what they say...everything before the "but" is bullshit. At best you can say that he took both sides in a single sentence. You're correct that the first part does not stereotype, but the second part clearly does. "The feminist movement" is indeed equivalent to "all/most feminists."

No

When I get to the answer, I stop reading.

Well if that's the case, I will invite you again to fuck off.

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Yeah, that seems to be the case. Sometimes the longest distance is from the head to the heart.

Are you trolling right now? Is this what's happening? I find it hard to believe that even you can be this stupid.

[Anomalocaris]

OK, I caught up a little bit. He went on to say, "I realise that the majority of feminists aren't like that, but still I have a bad association with the feminist movement because of it," which is pretty much what I said. So what's the problem?

No, it's not "pretty much what you said". Reading comprehension goes a long way bud. He said that he acknowledges the fact that most feminists aren't like that, but his gut response to it is a negative one. He certainly isn't stereotyping all feminsts, which would be if he did say "all/most feminists are like this", which is the opposite of what he did say.

Uh..and not to mention, that was like the fourth or so post of the entire thread. Not much of a catch-up.

What's the difference between "gut response to it (all feminist) is negative" and "treating all feminists like that" regardless of whether he superficially "acknowledges" whether most feminists are like that?

Any difference would seem all the more nonexistent when he chose a title says "why am I so passionate about speaking out against feminism" without any sort of qualification of whose version of feminism?

[Bad Wolf]

I suggest you and Alpha male actually read the rest of the posts and then you'll both realise how stupid you are being.

[FatAndFaithless]

No, it's not "pretty much what you said". Reading comprehension goes a long way bud. He said that he acknowledges the fact that most feminists aren't like that, but his gut response to it is a negative one. He certainly isn't stereotyping all feminsts, which would be if he did say "all/most feminists are like this", which is the opposite of what he did say.

Uh..and not to mention, that was like the fourth or so post of the entire thread. Not much of a catch-up.

What's the difference between "gut response to it (all feminist) is negative" and "treating all feminists like that" regardless of whether he superficially "acknowledges" whether most feminists are like that?

Any difference would seem all the more nonexistent when he chose a title says "why am I so passionate about speaking out against feminism" without any sort of qualification of whose version of feminism?

Because you can have a gut reaction to something and still recognize that you're being irrational, and try to act more rationally and with empathy for other people. As far as the thread title goes, yeah I'm not a huge fan, could've been more specific, which he was in later posts in the thread. Everyone has gut reactions to certain things, either from bad experiences, social upbrining, or other factors. Recognizing the fact that it is just a gut reaction, and trying to improve anyway is what I think Bad Wolf is trying to do here.

It's like if I said "feminist" or "republican" or "evangelical christian". You might (or might not) have a gut reaction to any one or all of those groups, but you can also realize that logically, members of those groups aren't all the same, and you try to go about approaching them as individuals.

[Bad Wolf]

What's the difference between "gut response to it (all feminist) is negative" and "treating all feminists like that"

Everything.

Any difference would seem all the more nonexistent when he chose a title says "why am I so passionate about speaking out against feminism" without any sort of qualification of whose version of feminism?

Just keep reading, it is has been clarified.