The Jesus Freaks Will Hate This

[The Reality Salesman01]

The other day, my wife came home and was telling me about a baby that she had kept alive at work. She mentioned something called an "APGAR" score, and it got me thinking about that conversation over that supposed miracle that Huggy was going on about.

http://kidshealth.org/parent/pregnancy_c...apgar.html

The "P" stands for pulse. As soon as she started talking about giving compressions, I immediately felt so stupid for allowing that detail in Huggy's story to just slip by unaddressed. The lady in Huggy's story "had no pulse for 45 minutes". For Christ's sake, I'm a certified CPR instructor and if there was a single thing I should've pointed out was that a person can have no pulse, but that doesn't mean their heart isn't being pumped by someone else. I went back and read the article that Huggy provided, and sure enough, it says plain as day "Despite having no pulse for 45 minutes, she had no neurological damage, no bruises from the chest compressions,." Her heart was not beating on it's own, but the compressions were pumping the blood for her. I got curious, is this even the longest amount of time a person has lived without a pulse? Nope, not even close.


"The next morning, Franko woke up with full brain function and he was able to go home ten days later."

After 2 hours and 45 minutes of being "dead".Was it God? No, it was human beings and their technology.

"He had no heart beat and was kept alive with the help of the LUCAS device. In addition, he received a total of 32 shocks to his chest."

https://www.healthpartners.com/public/ne...-2013.html

You can't even begin CPR until you're certain the victim doesn't have a pulse. I don't know why this didn't occur to me earlier, but, there ya go Huggy. Is it still amazing? Sure, but it's not magic. People save people all the time.

[robvalue]

There's a simple test to tell if magic is happening.

Do you understand what's going on?

If the answer is no, then it's magic.

[JesusHChrist]

There's a simple test to tell if magic is happening.

Do you understand what's going on?

If the answer is no, then it's magic.

Why...do...birds...suddenly appear?

Whenever, you are near?

I see....magic!

[The Reality Salesman01]

There's a simple test to tell if magic is happening.

Do you understand what's going on?

If the answer is no, then it's magic.

Why...do...birds...suddenly appear?

Whenever, you are near?

I see....magic!

It's no coincidence that Jesus was a carpenter...

[Ravenshire]

A Great Dane and Chihuahua belong to the same species.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reproductiv..._isolation

You do realize that inability to mate ultimately could result in different species, right?

While Great Danes and Chihuahuas can mate biologically *so far*, if they are unable to mate mechanically, they could diverge into multiple species.

It's not as simple as you make it out to be.

All that is required is isolation. Mechanical isolation is just one possibility.

If you're going to argue and don't want to appear the fool, read for Zeus' sake.

Actually, if you isolated a viable population of Chihuahuas and a viable population of Great Danes from all other dogs, you could consider them separate species since they cannot produce viable offspring in nature. You could argue that dogs have become a type of ring species with the ring being determined not by location but by size.

[RobertE]

Unless that person was in cold water beforehand and suffered extreme hypothermia, the chances of survival are slim. Cells start to die at normal temperature after 6 or 7 minutes without any sort of stimulation and this can be irreversible. The reason why I brought up hypothermia is simply because it prolongs the life of the cells.

[Thumpalumpacus]

Don't feel bad, TRS -- it passed under my radar too.

Unless that person was in cold water beforehand and suffered extreme hypothermia, the chances of survival are slim. Cells start to die at normal temperature after 6 or 7 minutes without any sort of stimulation and this can be irreversible. The reason why I brought up hypothermia is simply because it prolongs the life of the cells.

As do chest compressions, as TRS points out.

[Cinjin]

You misunderstand, first of all were talking about the Danish government being secular.
Secondly, 78% of Danes are members of the church not by choice, but because the Danish GOVERNMENT automatically makes them members at birth, how much they attend has nothing to do with it. They are being forced to join a church having no say in the matter. What if the US government made everyone member of a Church at birth? would you consider that secularism?

Where's my bull shit stamp {looking around}, I know I have it here somewhere.

I'm going to need you to cite a couple sources on that, because my friend AND his wife and ALL their friends have not been required by any sort of government let alone the Danish government to join a church. Meanwhile you still haven't addressed my original questions. Would you mind stopping these painfully pathetic misdirects.

Even Drich could do better than this.

[Ravenshire]

Even Drich could do better than this.

Ouch!

[The Reality Salesman01]

Darryl !!!