When will the Middle East become majority Atheist?

[Spooky]

When the country is turned into a radioactive parking lot.

They won't get there on their own.

[dyresand]

When the country is turned into a radioactive parking lot.

They won't get there on their own.

Which will probably be the near future probably since they are you know getting nukes and nuclear capabilities. So yeah...

[Vox Populi]

It will take a long long long time. If not never. They are so far behind the times unlike Europe where things are becoming more secular. With all the violence and deep dedication they have I doubt we will see it in the next 100-200 years... maybe 500.

[Chas]

From a Geo-Political standpoint, I will point out that Islamic countries have become worse because of the situation which led them there.

Iran was a secular democracy; the President at the time nationalized the Oil (which belonged to Britain), Britain and the USA carried out a coup-de-tat which led to his overthrowment and replacement with the Shah.

coup d'état

[TheMessiah]

From a Geo-Political standpoint, I will point out that Islamic countries have become worse because of the situation which led them there.

Iran was a secular democracy; the President at the time nationalized the Oil (which belonged to Britain), Britain and the USA carried out a coup-de-tat which led to his overthrowment and replacement with the Shah.

coup d'état

Poop-Derp-Fart

[Mister Agenda]

I would like to think ISIS have made at least some Middle Easterners wake the fuck up about their religion. You'd think surely it has.

That doesn't seem to follow. Do you think if the WBC started bombing rival churches they'd go 'oh fuck, I see now how dangerous Christianity is?'

Turkey is already a (relatively) secular Muslim country and some Muslim countries are (again, relatively) less austere and open to modernisation (I'm talking the maghrebi states excluding Libya, and Jordan, maybe a few others).

When ISIS talks about 'marching into Rome', they're talking about Istanbul, 'the Rome of the East'. Turkey by itself has the military power to crush ISIS. But since the USA is obviously going to wind up doing the heavy lifting like it always does, why should they step up?

If we stayed out of it, Turkey, Arabia, Jordan, and Egypt would HAVE to put down ISIS. They're the countries to which ISIS is the biggest threat. Libya too, if they're not too far gone already.

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I would guess there's a fair proportion of atheists all over there, that have to keep pretending for their own safety.

I feel for them, it must be wretched. I hope one day they can connect up properly.

I hear it's 5% in Saudi, maybe higher in Iran.

[abaris]

If we stayed out of it, Turkey, Arabia, Jordan, and Egypt would HAVE to put down ISIS. They're the countries to which ISIS is the biggest threat. Libya too, if they're not too far gone already.

And if the West wouldn't have spun yet another fairy tale about the galant insurgents against the evil Assad regime and supported them in their usual ignorance, at least half of the problem wouldn't exist in the first place.

Now it's the Iranians supporting the Iraquis. But that of course is also frowned upon. In some heads there's still that wet dream about creating a beacon of democracy in Iraq as monkey boy used to put it. As if this ever was even a remote possibility, once the lid was off the kettle.

[Delysid]

Corrected.

I can't agree with you. Islam is the religion to fear. All others are more of a nuisance and inconvenience.

You don't have to agree, the fact remains... I'm not saying some aren't more extreme than others, but the fact remains.

[robvalue]

So it seems the most likely way this is going to happen is to blow up all of that part of the map, and air-drop in an atheist. Then it will be majority atheist for the first time since humans came up with the "God" concept.

Hopefully we can find a more peaceful solution by Wednesday at some point.

[Smaug]

To me they aren't going turn to atheism or even liberal Islam as long as average life level is so low.