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RE: Islam, a growing threat to the free world?
October 2, 2010 at 11:01 am
(October 2, 2010 at 10:49 am)Paul the Human Wrote: It all boils down to extremism. Extremism exists on all sides, but right now, at this point in history, Islam is the most actively and effectively extreme. Are these extremists a threat to the 'rest of the world'? Yes. 'Other' extremists (and extremist organizations) still exist, but Islam is currently the most prolific.
^ My 2 cents.
Nonsense. Islam is just a religion, mostly benign. NATO on the other hand is an aggressive militaristic alliance hell bent on world domination. We atheists need to get our priorities right, our tendency to see a threat where there is none while ignoring the threats that are really there will come back to bite us.
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RE: Islam, a growing threat to the free world?
October 2, 2010 at 11:04 am
The sky is blue.
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RE: Islam, a growing threat to the free world?
October 2, 2010 at 11:08 am
(October 2, 2010 at 11:04 am)Paul the Human Wrote: The sky is blue. How enlightening.
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RE: Islam, a growing threat to the free world?
October 2, 2010 at 11:10 am
(October 2, 2010 at 11:08 am)Existentialist Wrote: (October 2, 2010 at 11:04 am)Paul the Human Wrote: The sky is blue. How enlightening.
Indeed.
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RE: Islam, a growing threat to the free world?
October 2, 2010 at 11:10 am
(October 2, 2010 at 11:01 am)Existentialist Wrote: Nonsense. Islam is just a religion, mostly benign. NATO on the other hand is an aggressive militaristic alliance hell bent on world domination. We atheists need to get our priorities right, our tendency to see a threat where there is none while ignoring the threats that are really there will come back to bite us. Quote:The big religions and the big ideologies don't terrorise, people do,...
...that would be the people associated with Islam who attacked the twin towers on 9-11.
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RE: Islam, a growing threat to the free world?
October 2, 2010 at 11:15 am
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(October 2, 2010 at 11:10 am)Paul the Human Wrote: (October 2, 2010 at 11:08 am)Existentialist Wrote: (October 2, 2010 at 11:04 am)Paul the Human Wrote: The sky is blue. How enlightening. Indeed. (Not)
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RE: Islam, a growing threat to the free world?
October 2, 2010 at 1:23 pm
(October 2, 2010 at 10:44 am)A Theist Wrote: This isn't "my side" either.
At least I picked a Christian group. I'm not sure how you associate a communist group with me. Were they atheists? Or do you think that I'm a communist? My politics are center-left. Help me out here. What was the link?
Regardless, Christianity is inherently dangerous as are other religions that feature a devil to fight and a hell to save people from. The salvation scheme of Islamo-Christianity are bound to lead to violence, time and time again. All it takes is the right leader to come along.
By contrast, I don't see any link between atheism and the atrocities of Stalin. If there is a cause and effect relationship, please elaborate on that.
I realize there are those who look to other reasons for Islamic terrorism. It's important to remember that there are other religions that experience oppression and they don't kill so indiscriminately. Also, I've read OBL's manifesto. He and other radical Muslims are upset over the secularization of the world and the inherent threat that presents to their way of life.
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RE: Islam, a growing threat to the free world?
October 2, 2010 at 1:31 pm
(October 2, 2010 at 1:23 pm)DeistPaladin Wrote: there are other religions that experience oppression and they don't kill so indiscriminately Islam doesn't kill indiscriminately. You are mistaking the actions of some muslims for the actions of all muslims. How long have you had this problem?
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RE: Islam, a growing threat to the free world?
October 2, 2010 at 3:18 pm
(October 2, 2010 at 1:31 pm)Existentialist Wrote: (October 2, 2010 at 1:23 pm)DeistPaladin Wrote: there are other religions that experience oppression and they don't kill so indiscriminately Islam doesn't kill indiscriminately.
The hundreds of thousands of civilians murdered by Islamic terrorism in the last decade, including those killed in Shia vs. Sunni conflicts, will be happy to know they were killed for a good reason. Do tell.
Quote:You are mistaking the actions of some muslims for the actions of all muslims.
No, I'm observing the inevitable result of Islamo-Christian teaching when it isn't restrained by civilization. Remember, we're discussing Islam here, not Muslims. Luckily, most Muslims and Christians don't take their religion that seriously (aka "moderates").
Quote:How long have you had this problem?
Since I started studying Islam and saw there's not a dime's worth of difference between it and Christianity.
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RE: Islam, a growing threat to the free world?
October 2, 2010 at 3:33 pm
(October 2, 2010 at 3:18 pm)DeistPaladin Wrote: The hundreds of thousands of civilians murdered
Where?
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