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Trump's Muslim immigration ban includes green card holders
#61
RE: Trump's Muslim immigration ban includes green card holders
(January 28, 2017 at 7:25 pm)Orochi Wrote:
(January 28, 2017 at 7:18 pm)abaris Wrote: Assuming you're capable of reading I'm quoting Orochi, who quoted Tiberius.

And might I also add as has been said before if this is about security why are countries that have a long history of terrorism not on the list .It clearly is not thus he's clearly not doing his supposed duty  anyway

Exactly, so it might be personal vendetta.
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#62
RE: Trump's Muslim immigration ban includes green card holders
(January 28, 2017 at 7:27 pm)Thal Wrote: "Protect the country from terrorists" my ass. We all know that's not what this is about. And if that's really what he believes, he's even dumber than I thought he was (which I honestly didn't think would be possible).

I was tenish when Nixon was in power and I can't honestly say to have been very interested in international policy back then. But this is the worst shitstain in the White House in my living memory. He makes me feel nostalgic over the shrub years.

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#63
RE: Trump's Muslim immigration ban includes green card holders
(January 28, 2017 at 7:31 pm)scififan Wrote:
(January 28, 2017 at 7:25 pm)Orochi Wrote: And might I also add as has been said before if this is about security why are countries that have a long history of terrorism not on the list .It clearly is not thus he's clearly not doing his supposed duty  anyway

Exactly, so it might be personal vendetta.

Are being sarcastic
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#64
RE: Trump's Muslim immigration ban includes green card holders
(January 28, 2017 at 7:32 pm)Orochi Wrote:
(January 28, 2017 at 7:31 pm)scififan Wrote: Exactly, so it might be personal vendetta.

Are being sarcastic

No really, wallah, why ? Do I look stupid ?
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#65
RE: Trump's Muslim immigration ban includes green card holders
(January 28, 2017 at 7:33 pm)scififan Wrote: No really, wallah, why ? Do I look stupid ?

Peculiar, I daresay. Not sure if stupid or trollish.
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#66
RE: Trump's Muslim immigration ban includes green card holders
(January 28, 2017 at 7:27 pm)Thal Wrote: "Protect the country from terrorists" my ass. We all know that's not what this is about. And if that's really what he believes, he's even dumber than I thought he was (which I honestly didn't think would be possible).

Really, it's not like the Republican party in general tends cares to see or make much of a distinction between Muslim terrorists and Muslim refugees.
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#67
RE: Trump's Muslim immigration ban includes green card holders
(January 28, 2017 at 7:33 pm)scififan Wrote:
(January 28, 2017 at 7:32 pm)Orochi Wrote: Are being sarcastic

No really, wallah, why ? Do I look stupid ?

Spend enough time here and trolls, legit parody and legit crazy people kind of start looking the same
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#68
RE: Trump's Muslim immigration ban includes green card holders
(January 28, 2017 at 7:18 pm)abaris Wrote:
(January 28, 2017 at 7:16 pm)Wyrd of Gawd Wrote: I'm waiting for the Constitutional Articles and Clauses that addresses immigration and who gets to say who our foreign and domestic enemies are.  I like to learn new things.

Assuming you're capable of reading I'm quoting Orochi, who quoted Tiberius.

(January 28, 2017 at 7:12 pm)Orochi Wrote: 1.read back Tiberius already put up an article as to it's illegality

2. The 14th Amendment’s Citizenship Clause and all the Supreme  court rulings there in

3. Congress trump doesn't get to just declare a country an enemy on whim

Now your turn
That's so silly you should be embarrassed to post it.

The US Constitution does not have anything in it about immigration.  The original one did but it only applied to the importation of slaves and was deleted.  

The 14th Amendment has nothing to do with immigration.  It's original intent was to extend citizenship to the black people in America after the end of the Civil War.  Before that they were not citizens even if they were free and had never been slaves.  Later on the SCOTUS extended it to Chinese who had been born in America.  Most American Indians didn't become US citizens until June 2, 1924 and some didn't gain full citizenship until 1948.

If we really wanted to we could amend the Constitution to deny muslims (or any other group) US citizenship.  

The President runs foreign policy.  He determines who our foreign and domestic enemies are.  He then gets the Congress Critters to do his bidding with the appropriate laws, resolutions or declarations of war. 

Please get up to speed on American history.  We can always discuss whether something is a good idea or not since that's just a matter of opinion.  But when it comes to facts be prepared to present them.
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#69
RE: Trump's Muslim immigration ban includes green card holders
(January 28, 2017 at 7:37 pm)Rev. Rye Wrote: Really, it's not like the Republican party in general tends cares to see or make much of a distinction between Muslim terrorists and Muslim refugees.

But they care about their coffers. And there's ample business interests in the countries Dump just antagonized.
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#70
RE: Trump's Muslim immigration ban includes green card holders
(January 28, 2017 at 7:34 pm)abaris Wrote:
(January 28, 2017 at 7:33 pm)scififan Wrote: No really, wallah, why ? Do I look stupid ?

Peculiar, I daresay. Not sure if stupid or trollish.

I feel stupid sometimes. Anyways, his agenda of banning muslims is like Obama saying he would take off all american troops from Iraq and afghanistan.

And as an outsider, I've seen America having a systematic approach to things ? So his 'policy' has its' boundaries.
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