RE: Religion is a poor source of morality
October 4, 2015 at 7:51 pm
(This post was last modified: October 4, 2015 at 7:58 pm by robvalue.)
I'll try and come back and address your post more fully Roadrunner
I shouldn't have mentioned the roadrunner tactic as I see you're employing it now, ungh! Only myself to blame there.
But I repeat, have you actually read the bible? Properly read it, front to back? The most common interaction of God with humans, according to his own book, is killing them. The second most common is ordering them to be killed. He displays just about every negative quality you could imagine, I'm happy to provide plenty of quotes about this. He displays virtually no redeeming qualities at all.
Sure, he turns up as Jesus (Jesus wasn't originally God, this was a later addition) for a very brief portion of the book. This is akin to an abusive father saying "there, there" after kicking the shit out of you for 16 years. It's funny how much time Christians spend taking about the NT. Disproportionately so, trying to fade the OT into obscurity. But then, Jesus is even worse than Yahweh. He brings with him Hell, the most evil concept imaginable.
To read all of that, and come out with the opinion that he's a loving, peaceful God is to just totally ignore everything it says and rewrite it in your head. I'm not interpreting anything, I'm reading the words on the page. It's really clear. If you have to "interpret" the words to mean the opposite of what they say, then what's the point of the book in the first place? Why is he such a terrible author? He is either incapable of properly communicating, or else is quite happy for people to draw contradictory conclusions from the book.

But I repeat, have you actually read the bible? Properly read it, front to back? The most common interaction of God with humans, according to his own book, is killing them. The second most common is ordering them to be killed. He displays just about every negative quality you could imagine, I'm happy to provide plenty of quotes about this. He displays virtually no redeeming qualities at all.
Sure, he turns up as Jesus (Jesus wasn't originally God, this was a later addition) for a very brief portion of the book. This is akin to an abusive father saying "there, there" after kicking the shit out of you for 16 years. It's funny how much time Christians spend taking about the NT. Disproportionately so, trying to fade the OT into obscurity. But then, Jesus is even worse than Yahweh. He brings with him Hell, the most evil concept imaginable.
To read all of that, and come out with the opinion that he's a loving, peaceful God is to just totally ignore everything it says and rewrite it in your head. I'm not interpreting anything, I'm reading the words on the page. It's really clear. If you have to "interpret" the words to mean the opposite of what they say, then what's the point of the book in the first place? Why is he such a terrible author? He is either incapable of properly communicating, or else is quite happy for people to draw contradictory conclusions from the book.
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