Religion is a poor source of morality

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If you're just going to say good morality is defined by what God does and is, then God is good, yes. But that's entirely circular. You're just saying God is like what he is like. That works for anything, not just God.

Can you please give an actual, real world non-trivial example of morality being objective? If morality is based on God's character which is in the bible, then we each have our own subjective interpretation of that character, then we each have our own subjective interpretation of objective morality. In other words, not objective at all. Everyone can claim their interpretation is "correct" of course. But at best they are all wrong except one person/small group of people because even people in the same denomination come up with different ideas.

Sure, we could go through all the horrible parts of the bible, but if your justification is going to be the above then God can do anything and you'd call it good, there's nothing to discuss. That is an amoral system.

What if god's actions are harmful to humans and not in our best interests? What if he is messing with us? How could you ever realize that, or discount it, if you don't stop to assess any of it for yourself? If in fact he is Satan, disguised as God, how could you tell the difference? Then Satan would be good, because Satan is the standard of good. Considering God killed around 2.5 million people in the bible and sends most people to hell, that makes Satan look very much like the good guy with just a kill count of 10.

However, let's give it a try. How do you justify God drowning everyone and everything on the planet because he was unhappy with the direction his creation had taken? He presumably could have used a more humane method even if for some reason killing everything was a sensible thing to do. Or just magically made everyone how he wanted them to be, with the morality he wanted them to have. That's essentially what he was doing by selecting the only people apparently fitting his requirements, so why not skip ahead and fix the whole problem without drowning anyone, and without killing all the animals who had nothing to do with it?

Of course, this story didn't actually happen at all, but it is still a good indication of the character of Yahweh. That character reflected the morality of the time. That's why it doesn't reflect the morality of our time, because it has since changed.