Religion is a poor source of morality

[robvalue]

Yes, I totally agree. For me, morality is about the "wellbeing" of all conscious creatures. There are ways you can improve that wellbeing, and reduce deficits to it. And absolutely, that's all the value that there really is.

It's how exactly you settle disputes between direct conflicts of interest that I think science cannot adequately answer. To do this, it must at some point assign relative value to different aspects of wellbeing. And bluntly, I don't much care about how anyone else values my physical pain compared to my lifespan, as a rough example.

I'm trying to watch the video, but I can't hear anything over me shouting "You fucking atheists have no morals!" over and over.

Just kidding, I'm checking it out now Looks interesting!

There are other objections I have, such as differering beliefs and intent, to such a formulaic evaluation. To insist everyone have correct beliefs is ridiculous. So how good someone is "trying to be" will depend on their beliefs, and to only look at the consequences by someone else's standards is no longer morality, in my book. I'm not saying you shouldn't try to discuss with them and change their opinion, of course.