Religion is a poor source of morality

[robvalue]

Cool!

One example though? Just one teeny tiny example? From anybody?

Surely you can see my scepticism, if not even one hypothetical non-trivial scenario can be presented that in any way suggests "morality is objective" in whatever sense? It must involve some conflict of interest between outcomes, that's what I mean by non trivial. If it can't handle conflicts of interest, then surely it is useless. And if there's an answer but it's impossible for us to know what it is, that is also useless for making any actual decisions.

I'd say "morality is objective" is a claim, which needs demonstrating. I still don't understand what the phrase actually means, and I don't think I will until someone gives me an example. I'm not asking for proof, just one little example of how it would actually work in reality; and why I should care about it if it does.

I won't ask anymore, I'll give up the ghost and go back to my little corner and scrape off some more paint.

Thanks everyone for the contributions, this is most interesting