(October 31, 2015 at 6:00 pm)abaris Wrote:When governments say they are friends, the way they treat their citizens has nothing to do with it. But you know this. The West will take the human rights moral high ground only if Saudi Arabia refuses to play ball.(October 31, 2015 at 3:13 pm)drfuzzy Wrote: Is that not the case? - - Perhaps I need to study a bit. I must admit that my knowledge of Islam is very shaky.
Certainly not everywhere. Syria under Assad is Baatist, remotely related to Saddam's regime. That's a secular ideology and therefore the Western idiocy of wanting to remove Assad at all costs, bears the same kind of stupidity as the Iraq adventure. Jordan is mostly secular, Egypt doesn't enforce muslim laws either. All more or less authoritarian regimes, but certainly not in favor of religious fundamentalism.
The only main players officially enforcing islamic laws are Iran and Saudi Arabia. But compared to Saudi Arabia, Iran is a liberal paradise. Especially when it comes to women's rights. Hypocrisy at it's best from a Western perspective, since the worst Islamic state is our very best friend.
The god who allows children to be raped out of respect for the free will choice of the rapist, but punishes gay men for engaging in mutually consensual sex couldn't possibly be responsible for an intelligently designed universe.
I may defend your right to free speech, but i won't help you pass out flyers.
Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities.
--Voltaire
Nietzsche isn't dead. How do I know he lives? He lives in my mind.
I may defend your right to free speech, but i won't help you pass out flyers.
Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities.
--Voltaire
Nietzsche isn't dead. How do I know he lives? He lives in my mind.