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Rape: Guilty until proven innocent?
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RE: Rape: Guilty until proven innocent?
PErhaps I read it wrong, but I don't see this as changing anything to guilty until proven innocent.  

Quote:As part of the major overhaul, the Director of Public Prosecutions, Alison Saunders, said she wanted police to ask suspects how they knew the alleged victim was saying yes, and was doing so 'freely and knowingly'. 
The CPS wants to tighten the law against offenders who target people incapacitated through drink or drugs, or where the alleged rapist holds a position of power over the victim.
Questions on consent should also be raised where the complainant has mental health problems or learning difficulties, it was said. 
It sounds like they are just going to ask the accused if there was consent if there is a grey area concerning consent, such as if the accuser is mentally ill or disabled, or incapacitated through drink or drugs.  This only makes sense, really.  If you have sex with a girl who is half unconscious, she didn't say no, did she?  But she didn't say yes either.

There is a lot of confusion and grey area with rape.  There are indeed false accusations, but I don't think this law will raise the number of those.  The victim would also have to provide evidence she was incapacitated or mentally incapable of saying yes, so this seems to me to raise the burden of proof on BOTH sides.
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Rape: Guilty until proven innocent? - by robvalue - November 28, 2015 at 3:50 am
RE: Rape: Guilty until proven innocent? - by Wyrd of Gawd - November 28, 2015 at 4:33 am
RE: Rape: Guilty until proven innocent? - by robvalue - November 28, 2015 at 4:38 am
RE: Rape: Guilty until proven innocent? - by Thumpalumpacus - November 28, 2015 at 4:47 am
RE: Rape: Guilty until proven innocent? - by dyresand - November 29, 2015 at 4:42 pm
RE: Rape: Guilty until proven innocent? - by The Valkyrie - November 29, 2015 at 4:50 pm
RE: Rape: Guilty until proven innocent? - by robvalue - November 29, 2015 at 4:52 pm
RE: Rape: Guilty until proven innocent? - by Mermaid - November 29, 2015 at 4:55 pm
RE: Rape: Guilty until proven innocent? - by dyresand - November 29, 2015 at 5:04 pm
RE: Rape: Guilty until proven innocent? - by The Valkyrie - November 29, 2015 at 5:08 pm
RE: Rape: Guilty until proven innocent? - by Mermaid - November 29, 2015 at 5:10 pm
RE: Rape: Guilty until proven innocent? - by dyresand - November 29, 2015 at 5:49 pm
RE: Rape: Guilty until proven innocent? - by Mermaid - November 29, 2015 at 5:56 pm
RE: Rape: Guilty until proven innocent? - by The Valkyrie - November 29, 2015 at 6:01 pm
RE: Rape: Guilty until proven innocent? - by The Valkyrie - November 29, 2015 at 6:20 pm
RE: Rape: Guilty until proven innocent? - by Athene - November 30, 2015 at 12:07 am
RE: Rape: Guilty until proven innocent? - by Aroura - November 29, 2015 at 5:20 pm
RE: Rape: Guilty until proven innocent? - by Mermaid - November 29, 2015 at 6:03 pm
RE: Rape: Guilty until proven innocent? - by Mermaid - November 29, 2015 at 6:20 pm
RE: Rape: Guilty until proven innocent? - by Aroura - November 29, 2015 at 7:16 pm
RE: Rape: Guilty until proven innocent? - by Aroura - November 29, 2015 at 7:36 pm
RE: Rape: Guilty until proven innocent? - by Wyrd of Gawd - November 29, 2015 at 7:42 pm
RE: Rape: Guilty until proven innocent? - by dyresand - November 29, 2015 at 8:45 pm
RE: Rape: Guilty until proven innocent? - by The Valkyrie - November 29, 2015 at 7:41 pm
RE: Rape: Guilty until proven innocent? - by Cecelia - November 29, 2015 at 8:47 pm
RE: Rape: Guilty until proven innocent? - by Mermaid - November 29, 2015 at 8:49 pm
RE: Rape: Guilty until proven innocent? - by robvalue - November 29, 2015 at 10:09 pm

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