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What's the point of philosophy any more?
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RE: What's the point of philosophy any more?
(March 21, 2018 at 8:33 pm)Hammy Wrote: But we aren't required to say may and the fact someone is capable of disagreeing with the correct position is irrelevant.
I say this as a person who agrees with you, completely, on whether or not we an be objectively certain of this and that... acknowledging the "may" is just being upfront about the limitations of not only our specific position..but also the means by which we arrived at it.    

Quote:Universal agreement is not a prerequestie for one particular answer being absolutely correct to agree with because it's correct. 0% of people could agree that X is X, 50% of people could agree that X is X, 100% of people could agree that X is X... it makes no difference who agrees with what, X is X.
Agreed, something I find myself reminding people constantly in discussions on objectoive moral systems..but since we agree on this and it isn't a point of dispute between us in this discussion....?

Quote:Something isn't dogma just because you say it is. Something has to actually be dogmatic for it to be dogma. There's nothing less dogmatic than starting from a sound premise.

Starting with an irrelevant conclusion is dogmatic, and saying that everything is true or all opinions are equal may be less dangerous, but it's equally absurd.

Dogma - a principle or set of principles laid down by an authority as incontrovertibly true.  

The irony, in you arguing against the assertion of your incontrovertible principles, is that you are argung against the dogmatic acceptence of a dictionary....and here I would actually agree with you in principle too...but here..it collapses as an argument for the incontrovertible.  Ah, but what about other dictionaries that say dogma is something else?  What about other systems of inference and implication that aren't based on our shared western framework?  What about another universe, where things are different..because, you know, things are different?
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Messages In This Thread
RE: What's the point of philosophy any more? - by Sal - March 20, 2018 at 7:33 am
RE: What's the point of philosophy any more? - by Brian37 - March 20, 2018 at 4:36 pm
RE: What's the point of philosophy any more? - by tjakey - March 20, 2018 at 9:40 am
RE: What's the point of philosophy any more? - by Silver - March 20, 2018 at 12:05 pm
RE: What's the point of philosophy any more? - by Brian37 - March 20, 2018 at 12:16 pm
RE: What's the point of philosophy any more? - by Brian37 - March 20, 2018 at 12:33 pm
RE: What's the point of philosophy any more? - by Brian37 - March 20, 2018 at 4:32 pm
RE: What's the point of philosophy any more? - by The Grand Nudger - March 21, 2018 at 8:45 pm
RE: What's the point of philosophy any more? - by bennyboy - March 22, 2018 at 12:30 am
RE: What's the point of philosophy any more? - by bennyboy - March 24, 2018 at 10:31 pm
RE: What's the point of philosophy any more? - by Angrboda - March 25, 2018 at 12:52 pm
RE: What's the point of philosophy any more? - by bennyboy - March 28, 2018 at 10:24 am
RE: What's the point of philosophy any more? - by Shell B - March 25, 2018 at 5:05 pm

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