(March 21, 2018 at 9:51 am)Mister Agenda Wrote:Godscreated Wrote:That's not even close to reality, a rock can't be a concept because it existed before man, man neither conceptualized a rock nor made one, you might say God did though.
GC
OK, let's try again: your concept of a rock is how you know a rock is a rock. Without having a concept of a rock, you wouldn't know what one is. It's how you can tell a rock you've never seen before is a rock. Because you know what a rock is. You have a concept of what a rock is. If you see an object that doesn't fit that concept, you conclude it is not a rock.
Okay let's try this again, concept by definition is not actual knowledge. In your little picture here you have missed something very important, what if my concept of a rock is wrong, concepts are not taught. So my concept of a rock is wrong and I call a tree a rock and your concept of a rock is correct and you call a rock a rock, how to you explain to me that my concept is not correct being that a concept is not actual knowledge.
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God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.