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There Is No Sin!
RE: There Is No Sin!
(March 23, 2018 at 7:03 pm)Khemikal Wrote:
(March 23, 2018 at 7:00 pm)Banned Wrote: What exactly matters to you when you're dead?
Nothing..but a moral system circumscribes sets of actions in life...so.....?

So why is anyone called a criminal when the very lawmakers will be fodder as well?

Nothing matters once they're all dead, in the scheme of evolution.

(March 23, 2018 at 7:08 pm)Tizheruk Wrote:
(March 23, 2018 at 7:07 pm)Banned Wrote: Why does it matter now?
Because were alive now

So you think you matter, but a murderer doesn't.
Can you justify your existence, other than being a well developed worm, a resource consuming putz?

(March 23, 2018 at 7:08 pm)Khemikal Wrote:
(March 23, 2018 at 6:55 pm)Khemikal Wrote: It would seem like an obvious point..but regardless of your beliefs on the matter of evolutionary biology..our actions do matter - they have consequences, and our moral systems inform our actions.

If the only sense in which it mattered was how those systems informed our actions and the pursuant consequences of those actions..it would matter plenty enough.  This is, conveniently, the "consequentialist" position.

We -just- went over the answer to your question...didn't we?

So the moral system is a temporary condition.
How is that 'moral' as opposed to accidental or convenient?
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There Is No Sin! - by chimp3 - March 11, 2018 at 11:16 am
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