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There Is No Sin!
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#121
RE: There Is No Sin!
March 23, 2018 at 7:05 pm
(March 23, 2018 at 6:58 pm)Tizheruk Wrote: Nope nor does it matter if they did . Because morality is not about either . Once again stupid

What do you mean by basic morality?
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RE: There Is No Sin!
March 23, 2018 at 7:05 pm (This post was last modified: March 23, 2018 at 7:06 pm by chimp3.)
(March 23, 2018 at 7:00 pm)Banned Wrote:
(March 23, 2018 at 6:55 pm)Khemikal Wrote: It would seem like an obvious point..but regardless of your beliefs on the matter of evolutionary biology..our actions do matter - they have consequences, and our moral systems inform our actions.

If the only sense in which it mattered was how those systems informed our actions and the pursuant consequences of those actions..it would matter plenty enough.  This is, conveniently, the "consequentialist" position.

What exactly matters to you when you're dead?
(March 23, 2018 at 6:59 pm)chimp3 Wrote: You have that right Banned! We can only learn as much about health and long living to offset those two culprits a small bit.

Off setting won't make any difference when you're dead.
I think I need some prozac. This guy is like Eeyore. Fucking black cloud following him around. OK, Banned. I am sick of your negativity and will ignore you for awhile. Going to take control over my weekend and enjoy myself. Ta Ta and fuck off for now!

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RE: There Is No Sin!
March 23, 2018 at 7:07 pm
(March 23, 2018 at 6:58 pm)Khemikal Wrote: Neither you nor I nor chimp are dead yet, so why would -that- matter?

Why does it matter now?
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RE: There Is No Sin!
March 23, 2018 at 7:08 pm (This post was last modified: March 23, 2018 at 7:08 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
(March 23, 2018 at 6:55 pm)Khemikal Wrote: It would seem like an obvious point..but regardless of your beliefs on the matter of evolutionary biology..our actions do matter - they have consequences, and our moral systems inform our actions.

If the only sense in which it mattered was how those systems informed our actions and the pursuant consequences of those actions..it would matter plenty enough.  This is, conveniently, the "consequentialist" position.

We -just- went over the answer to your question...didn't we?
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RE: There Is No Sin!
March 23, 2018 at 7:08 pm (This post was last modified: March 23, 2018 at 7:09 pm by Amarok.)
Quote:What do you mean by basic morality?
Where did i say basic morality ? But that exists iand already showed it .
(March 23, 2018 at 7:07 pm)Banned Wrote:
(March 23, 2018 at 6:58 pm)Khemikal Wrote: Neither you nor I nor chimp are dead yet, so why would -that- matter?

Why does it matter now?
Because were alive now
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RE: There Is No Sin!
March 23, 2018 at 7:12 pm
(March 23, 2018 at 7:05 pm)chimp3 Wrote: I think I need some prozac. This guy is like Eeyore. Fucking black cloud following him around. OK, Banned. I am sick of your negativity and will ignore you for awhile. Going to take control over my weekend and enjoy myself. Ta Ta and fuck off for now!

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RE: There Is No Sin!
March 23, 2018 at 7:15 pm
Quote:Truth hurts, but running won't make it go away.
Yup so you must be in constant agony because your daily beaten with it by us . Says the man doing the 60k sprint from it .
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RE: There Is No Sin!
March 23, 2018 at 7:19 pm (This post was last modified: March 23, 2018 at 7:26 pm by Banned.)
(March 23, 2018 at 7:03 pm)Khemikal Wrote:
(March 23, 2018 at 7:00 pm)Banned Wrote: What exactly matters to you when you're dead?
Nothing..but a moral system circumscribes sets of actions in life...so.....?

So why is anyone called a criminal when the very lawmakers will be fodder as well?

Nothing matters once they're all dead, in the scheme of evolution.
(March 23, 2018 at 7:08 pm)Tizheruk Wrote:
(March 23, 2018 at 7:07 pm)Banned Wrote: Why does it matter now?
Because were alive now

So you think you matter, but a murderer doesn't.
Can you justify your existence, other than being a well developed worm, a resource consuming putz?
(March 23, 2018 at 7:08 pm)Khemikal Wrote:
(March 23, 2018 at 6:55 pm)Khemikal Wrote: It would seem like an obvious point..but regardless of your beliefs on the matter of evolutionary biology..our actions do matter - they have consequences, and our moral systems inform our actions.

If the only sense in which it mattered was how those systems informed our actions and the pursuant consequences of those actions..it would matter plenty enough.  This is, conveniently, the "consequentialist" position.

We -just- went over the answer to your question...didn't we?

So the moral system is a temporary condition.
How is that 'moral' as opposed to accidental or convenient?
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RE: There Is No Sin!
March 23, 2018 at 7:29 pm (This post was last modified: March 23, 2018 at 7:36 pm by chimp3.)
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RE: There Is No Sin!
March 23, 2018 at 7:37 pm (This post was last modified: March 23, 2018 at 7:39 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
(March 23, 2018 at 7:19 pm)Banned Wrote:
(March 23, 2018 at 7:03 pm)Khemikal Wrote: Nothing..but a moral system circumscribes sets of actions in life...so.....?

So why is anyone called a criminal when the very lawmakers will be fodder as well?
Just because someone dies...either the perpetrator or the lawmaker or anyone else...doesn;t mean they didn;t do something while they were alive.

Quote:Nothing matters once they're all dead, in the scheme of evolution.
I could quote myself again..but at some point you'll have to read it..or there's no point.

Quote:So the moral system is a temporary condition.
How is that 'moral' as opposed to accidental or convenient?
My life is temporary.  The systems will persists, and people who are still alive will continue to do things, informed by those systems, with consequences.  That this is "moral" is just a matter of definition.  It's what we're talking about.

Now, I want you to take a breath. No, really..stop and take a breath. Can you see how a person..seeing some of these questions..might doubt that you even have a moral sense to begin with, or have any idea what anyone is talking about when they discuss morality? Is that what you want to communicate? Is that really accurate, in regards to yourself?
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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