RE: What's the point of philosophy any more?
March 26, 2018 at 11:50 am
(This post was last modified: March 26, 2018 at 11:59 am by The Grand Nudger.)
The hope, is that if we continue to "do philosophy" we can produce more sciences out of them. Though, interestingly, and it played out in this thread...as soon as philosophy dopes manage to produce a science it gets awfully possessive about the now lost subject...like...say.....mind.
I agree with you, btw. I simply acknowledge the limitations and underlying philosophy of our shared expectation that any meaningful refutation of the philosophy of science will -improve- science rather than sending it tumbling out the window....but if we were trying to be real hardcore scientific about it..we'd probably acknowledge that no amount of success ever overcomes a single integral failure. Falsifiability over positivism.
Put another way, if the theory of science is not at least conceptually falsifiable....how much scientific value does it have?
(March 26, 2018 at 11:47 am)Mathilda Wrote: No way is it that clear cut between the two. After all, science knows how it knows what it does. It can point to the evidence in the literature. It can also question how the scientific method can be adapted to investigate for each specialisation or whether there is a new class of problems that needs to be approached in a different way.That -is- the philosophy of science. Which is a sub-field of philosophy.
Quote:Whether science evolved from philosophy, or whether philosophy said 'here you go, here's something called science that I want you to try out', or whether science came about as a fruitful way to investigate things and exploit them and philosophy came along later and gave it respectability, the end result is the same. Science can stand on its own two feet even if every philosopher was rounded up and burnt along with their publications.Philosophy -is- one of it's feet.
Quote:I disagree that anyone could do that because of what has been achieved by science.A positively positivist response..but, you know...popper had thoughts on that.
I agree with you, btw. I simply acknowledge the limitations and underlying philosophy of our shared expectation that any meaningful refutation of the philosophy of science will -improve- science rather than sending it tumbling out the window....but if we were trying to be real hardcore scientific about it..we'd probably acknowledge that no amount of success ever overcomes a single integral failure. Falsifiability over positivism.
Put another way, if the theory of science is not at least conceptually falsifiable....how much scientific value does it have?
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