RE: What's the point of philosophy any more?
March 26, 2018 at 5:43 pm
(This post was last modified: March 26, 2018 at 5:57 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
(March 26, 2018 at 5:31 pm)Whateverist Wrote: No I’m just describing the way it seems to me from my own first person perspective. No claims of objectivity included or implied. Is your own experience very different then?It's unlikely that my experience is different from your own by any statistically significant margin. Even if we were entirely different and opposite people we'd be what, a couple points of deviation away from each other on a narrow standard scale?
I'll use the comp analogy just for this response and then drop it (lol)..but, to an alu, what we might call an emotional input and what we might call a rational input are functionally equivalent. The system is capable of doing the same work in the same way on either and would be incapable of distinguishing between the two in the vast majority of cases without meta-data on the inputs.
Quote:An adequate account of consciousness probably should square with what we experience or at least explain how the false appearance arise. So I think the struggle between impulse and best judgement needs to be accounted for by whatever theory one offers."Impulse" would be the analog of dry logical function in living creatures. "Best judgement"..a much higher level abstraction or language that included emotional inputs. It's easy to see why people don't see it that way, or miss the subtlety on the conflation by natural semantics.
A simple system does x if y..for example. There's your basic IF function (one of a range of functions implemented in an alu). Doesn't matter what the x or the y is. That's entirely logical even if both x and y are..in our normal conversational sense..not. The fact that we act on our emotions or impulses are both equally logical from the point of view of the system...and our designating something as one or the other (in the conversational sense) would rely on meta-data, and the validity of our designation on both the accuracy and accessibility of the meta-data.
Do either you or I actually have -that- sort of experience, accurate and accessible metadata about the function of our minds? Unlikely. Maybe in loooong retrospect, with an even higher level of abstraction and regimented thought, lol. Certainly not a common thing or a thing that we realize in the moment. Meanwhile...."if the sky is :jumping jacks: then do :rabbit:" is just one of the many possible descriptions of a logical function.
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