RE: Atheist Bible Study 1: Genesis
October 29, 2018 at 11:30 am
(This post was last modified: October 29, 2018 at 11:42 am by Drich.)
(October 29, 2018 at 10:09 am)Bucky Ball Wrote:no no no you are jumping the gun retard... I listed three videos.. one of the mention the ring/royal seal. there is literally hundreds of other points and pieces of evidence between the other two videos.. Jorge invalidated one and only did so by pointing out there was a semitic king of egypt of the same name as what was on the seal.. (the video says Joseph was that king) And the wiki page says nut-huh.. To which i conceded because the point was still made..(October 29, 2018 at 9:08 am)Drich Wrote: So, that's all you got? kill the messenger... no wonder you put such importance in my spelling... you honestly think that is you taint the messenger's credibility you do not have to address the message. what a small minded person you've shown yourself to be. in the real world you know the world that elected trump despite the best efforts of people such as yourself.. Real people are not playing those games any more real people demand answers to the material or the promises made they are not concerned by the package the message is wrapped in so much as the content of the message it self. I provided 3 video that conclusively show everything I pointed to. If you want to be apart of this conversation then show me stronger source.. you can't just say some one is a stupid head and expect me to take you seriously.
No again that would literally be post 181. At least I can reference the bible. buckster can't or hasn't referenced anything... but I appreciate the irony. It is always funny as hell when atheists demonstrate a complete lack of self-awareness.
see buckster this is how something is refuted.. now all jorge has to do is refute the other 1.5 hour video which actually brings us to what is said to be joseph's tomb, joseph's canal and the 1200 semitic towns they are uncovering.
Of all people here, YOU are the last one who is in a position tell anyone how something is done. But nice try, patronizing one.
AFTER being shown that the videos you referenced were made by an incompetent charlatan, (not unlike yourself), you REPEAT your mistake, and pile on the SAME erroneous crap. The problem is "what is *said* to be anything is NOT good enough. It must be PROVEN. You have no proof. The BEST Israeli archaeologists (which YOU have not even addressed ... not EVEN ONE point) say there is no evidence of Israel in Egypt. Until you do, your rubbish is dismissed for what it is. Rubbish. Do try harder next time, sport. Maybe one of these years you'll come up with something true or of value. Your whiney "kill the messenger" garbage is irrelevant. You have no *message*. The messenger is flat out incompetent and ignorant, (as demonstrated by your constant misuse and bad use of English). Your knowledge of religion and the ancient Near East is totally lacking. Totally. You're an amateur. Everyone can see that.
And assuming now... you are to M-f-ing stupid to understand the significance of that, allow me to explain semite= what Jews were known as before the exodus. Semite king= pre-Jews in egypt... think about it moron. even if this was not Joseph (which is all Jorge's reference trs to dispel which a counter argument could be made) the underlying argument that there were "jews" in egypt is settled. Which means you BS paper is garbage. Technically again they were not jews till they received the law well after the exodus, but they were semites, the same semite found in the northern delta where this royal seal was found. the jews left and the semites stayed, but before the exodus they were all semites..
As far as explain why Joseph's would have his fathers name on it was because that is in tradition with the pharaohs. they never took a common name they always aligned themselves with great men or great names. Jacob is the greatest in his short line (aberham disgraced himself before a previous king by telling him his wife was his sister and the tried married her before God intervened.)
(October 29, 2018 at 10:36 am)Grandizer Wrote: The Tower of Babelit wasn't the tower so much as it was "these men can accomplish anything they set their mind too." Meaning they would have most likely takes humanity down a much different path, then the one we are on now. Not to mention all of the natural resources being consumed by this project would mean ultimately mean war as all of their sores would have been depleted the country side ravaged for good brick soil and straw which leaves no room from crops or livestock food. and the builders slave or not would have to eat. which means they would have to expand out, not as a means to assimilate people, but to grab for resources which means everyone not apart of the project would have to die.
Genesis 11:1-9
While Genesis 10 established the differences between the nations of the ancient world in terms of descent and language, this passage is an attempt (in the form of a myth) to explain how these differences emerged. God, upon seeing the human race so united on building a tower that could reach the heavens, prevents the completion of the building process by confusing their language, thus causing various divisions among the people by language and having them scattered across the whole world.
Why, in this passage, did God not want the people to build such a tower? One interesting answer I thought up just a short while ago is because such a tower being completed with such unity would indicate a utopian type of society that God had no intention of allowing to exist (especially if it was not dependent on him). He wanted man and woman instead to experience struggles in life and learn and grow in the process. As man and woman had already eaten from the tree of knowledge of good and evil, the paradise of Eden was no longer an option for humankind. Thus, God's scattering of the people to prevent another Eden.