(October 29, 2018 at 3:40 pm)Bucky Ball Wrote:please snow flake all of you are the same.. you cry out to God and got nothing in return. or did not get what you felt you were entitled to.. it is always some form of that.(October 29, 2018 at 3:23 pm)Drich Wrote: bla bla bla ....
tl:dr
You have no clue why anyone is an atheist, ignorant troll.
Quote:What you are is an ignorant presumptuous angry old man, and obviously religion has done nothing for you.middle aged actually and religion has not done anything for me.. however God has taken care of me from day one to today where i need not even bother to play the lottery anymore. Religion is or should be used only as a tool to get to know God. other wise it becomes a boat anchor keeping God from people.
Quote:FIRST, you have to prove there is a god, and that Jesus existed. You can't.from a court of law perspective i can. as there is more documentation concerning the existence of Jesus Christ than any other historical figure of that area. to doubt the existence of Christ is to doubt the existence of everyone else in that time period. a douche may object and say, those written records are all religious texts... here's the thing anything written about christ that confirms his deity no matter who wrote it is considered a religious text. The whole book of luke was consider to be written by a complete outsider who had no horse in this race, and it is now consider to be one of the 4 gospels. Even though it was not written for religious purposes or to a church or religious group of any kind.
So to say only religious text mention jesus is moving the goal posts as all written text that confirm christ are categorized this way no matter who wrote them. that being the case Christ is the predominate figure literally in this time period and again to cast doubt on Christ is to also cast doubt on everyone else.
But you don't want legal proof you want what is not possible you want to put God under scientific scrutiny. you would ask that of anyone else? would you demand to put the remains of julius caesar under the microscope to prove who he was?
Quote:All your pre-canned answers you bought off the shelf at Fundy-land are wrong.The funny thing is if i used pre canned answers then maybe you would have a chance in a debate. you ever wonder why you always have to attack my character or intelligence? I know you know that crap is as intellectually dishonest as one can get, but as of late is your only avenue.. do you want to know why? because i do not use off the shelf answers otherwise you could google your response, and the only think you have left is an ad hoc or ad hom attacks.. which you do not seem to have a problem with.
Go away. No one cares about the shit you attempt to write.
Quote:"For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith--and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God--"
Ephesians 2:8
Some were not given the "gift" THAT is why they are atheists.

Quote:The gods are all made in the image of men.what a m-fing moron.. You made a version of jesus and was he angry? you made a version of God and did he have emotion? So goes 2000 years of like minded perception. and then the jews before.. Do you want to know why the pharisees and sadducees did not follow Christ as the son of God? because He then like now did not fit the religious mould. He was not what people expected of a deity. they wanted to see pictures of the greek gods embodies in their God... just like you do. you need a satan to be the king of the underworld you need a zuse for a heavenly Father and you need a hippy jesus... You are not alone in these pics as this is how these figures have been depicted for 1000s of years, because when we build a god that is what we want...
That why you have an angry judgmental Jebus.
I have shown you God and Jesus to be completely opposite of what you think of through the bible. and you still claim we invent god... again how m-fing stupid you are to say something as blind sided as that!!1 Again you are answering stock responses when I do not give you a stock remark. you are so lost you continually return to these broken answers as if they can still mean something. THEY DON'T!
The God of the bible looks nothing like anything in any form of mythos or non christian religion. The deal in Christianity put people in direct contact with God.. again not even in the christian religion! is this possible in all cases as some believe we must have priests and dead saints to intercede for us.. No the Holy Spirit since acts 2 is our only intercession needed! I have shown you over and over Jesus is not the hippy douche you made up! He was strong took no prisoners and harsh with people who stood in his way delivering the truth of God's word!!
Quote:You are an angry judgmental person who gets off on playing "superior" Church Lady.idnat special.. a 1990 SNL reference and you call me old.. what kind of ham fingered crap is this? just more ad hom pie thrown in my direction to see if something will stick.. this is what dummies do when they can't speak topically.. they try and tear down people so the other dummies can feel safe from also being put on the spot and being forced to provide answers they/you can not.
Quote:So .... your Jebus is an angry judgmental Church Lady.never been to a korean baptist revival i see. you are and have been desperately trying to reel me in by appealing to what you think are the limits of my 'religion.' Again I am not religious moron. I am not bound by the law. My rules are that of Christ Himself To love God with all my being meaning to put God first in everything, and to agape' my neighbor as my self. Agape' is a respect form of love that can be forged over time. like me heating an ingot of iron and beating it over and over into submission once the crude iron casts out the impurities and becomes a master work of steel then the steel will show the love time thought and attention put into it's transformation and reshaping.
(There is NO Christian congregation / group that would approve of your behavior ... not one. Obviously you are a "loner" ... is that why you are so angry ?)
This is what is known as the long game, and truth be told you are not really the focus it is everyone else who wants to know but does not want to face the heat or the anvil right away... which is only but one tool I have, as I have had many many discussions with members here that never get heated.
all ne need to is ask a question and follow up respectfully.