Atheist Bible Study 1: Genesis

[Angrboda]

This demon/loki spawn takes out thor. Thor did not have beef with this dragon serpent because it was a nice friendly go happy being...

Oh, and if we're going to boast about our research, let's point out that the reason Thor opposed Jormungandr was because of the prophecy that the children of Angrboda and Loki would bring great harm upon them, not because it was an 'angry' serpent.  But feel free to quote the sources and show that the serpent was angry and that Thor opposed the serpent for this reason.  It's entirely possible the serpent is described as angry.  You might get lucky.  Put your claim of great research to the test here and make your case for the serpent actually being angry and that being Thor's reason for opposing it.  I'll be interested to hear what you find, not having explored the matter in any great depth.

While we're waiting on that, let's point out that a dragon lady is a common ethnic slur used to demean women of Asian descent.  As long as we're being loose with our interpretations here, I have to wonder if you didn't simply use the opportunity to make a bigoted and offensive remark about me.  You say that you research everything and that you have such research in mind before you make your remarks. Given that, I must assume that you were also aware that dragon lady is a racial slur and intended that meaning to come across as well.  Are you then claiming you are a bigot in addition to being a master of research and preparation?

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Actually, thinking this over, I'm going to borrow a play from your playbook and dispute what an otherwise reasonable person might concede, and see how you like your own tricks. Given that you recently denied basic human psychology in order to refuse to concede when you were wrong about the conditions that Christ placed on salvation, I'm withdrawing my concession on the dragon issue as well as the meaning of the Latin word fetus.

In the first case, what you have is some internet rando reinterpreting Norse legend. In the same vein, if some internet weirdo referred to Mickey Mouse as a rat, that wouldn't bear any weight in establishing that Mickey Mouse was indeed a rat. What is relevant is what the Norse who created the legends meant, and for that you need to bring evidence that the Norse had the concept of a dragon, a word for it in their language, and that they referred to Jormungandr in those terms in the original sagas. Until you do, it's simply unknown whether Jormungandr was a dragon or not. But given that you research everything in depth, the answers to these questions should already be in your notes on the matter. I will await your enlightening me on this matter, as I simply do not know.

As to the meaning of the Latin word fetus, you claimed that fetus was Latin for baby. You've quoted various dictionaries as indicating that baby or offspring was one of the meanings of fetus, but those dictionaries do not indicate whether that was the core meaning of the word, or rather an uncommon and exceptional use of the word. In order for your claim that "(Fetus=latin for baby)" to be true, the meaning of baby or offspring would have to be common usage, not simply an exception to otherwise common usage. Since the only evidence we have on the matter is an etymological dictionary which indicates that baby or offspring was not the main meaning of the term, and notes that exceptional uses of it among uncommon lines occurs in the literature to underscore that point, it seems the only evidence we have in the matter is that fetus=baby was not common usage, and so your implied claim that it was "the" meaning of fetus is wrong. I'll note in this context that the exception proves the rule, which means that the citing of an exception indicates that a more general rule to which it is an exception is in place. What that means is that the etymological dictionary quoting the exception proves the more general rule that fetus does not equal baby or offspring. So the only evidence one way or the other in the matter suggests that fetus meaning baby is not the meaning of the Latin, and until I see evidence that it is, I refuse to concede the point.

Have fun, Drich. I look forward to your research. lol.