Another Gun Thread

[CDF47]

Just curious, do you own an AR-15 or AR-10?  I just bought my first AR-15 last month.  It's a Colt LE6920.  I love it.  It shoots great.  It's my new favorite gun to shoot.  I like to shoot as a hobby of mine.  One of my favorite ones along with ice fishing and fishing.

Thanks for showing everyone here you selfish attitude. It doesn't even bother you that the inventor of the Ar-15 never intended it for civilian use.

It is a battlefield weapon, not a toy. "My favorite" is not how you talk about a deadly tool. 

"My favorite" is how you talk about music, art, sports."

"I like to shoot as a hobby of mine".....

^^^^^^^ Hobby is not the same as a need, like NOT DYING. Not dying is not a hobby. Not dying is a need.

You can also target shoot with other firearms. So what you are describing by using the word "hobby" isn't describing a right, but a like. 

I get that you might like shooting an Ar-15, but you don't need one, especially if you are going to call it a "hobby".

A long time ago, I got pissed at my mom for buying me a cheaper Ross bicycle when the other kids on my street had the popular BMX bikes with mag rims. Her attitude was, "You got a bike, you don't need a BMX". She was right. 

If you want a firearm to "have fun" with and shoot targets with, you still do not need an Ar-15. Huge difference between a want and a need.

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If you like shooting things at a rapid pace for fun, paintball can do the same thing without the ability to kill lots of people in short order.

The founders of this great country gave us the right to bear arms primarily to combat tyranny at home as I have stated (in addition to defending against potential invaders and for self defense against thugs and criminals).  Even Jesus told two of His disciples to buy swords for self defense.  We need weapons close to what the military has to defend the country as a line of defense at home and to deter or take out a tyrannical government.  Hitler took the guns from dissidents.  Paintball guns don't work against dictators.  Sorry.

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Well, I have a favourite sword, a favourite axe, and a favourite chisel.  Is that ok, or should I call them something else?

Boru

Not the same. I had my "favorite" WW2 fighter plane at one time. But it isn't legal for civilians to use a fully armed Corsair in public.

He isn't treating that the same when he talks about it. He is delusional in that he does not understand it is not a toy. I am sure you can find cops and military that have "favorite weapons" too. But the ones who understand impact and use, of and seriousness of it, also know the meaning of time place and context and treat those deadly objects tools. They also understand that not everyone should use them.

You cant take a sword or axe or chisel 32 stories up in a hotel and murder 50plus people in minutes.

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Spray weapons are not designed for "fun", rapid fire spray weapons are designed to cause quick damage to more people in a quicker period.

A spray weapon.  Where did that term come from?  The weapon we are discussing is semi-automatic like many other semi-automatic guns on the market.  The mass murderer in Las Vegas was using a bump stock which is now illegal for nearly all US citizens.  The bump stock made the gun shoot more like an automatic assault rifle rather than a single shot semi-automatic assault weapon.  

I understand it is not a toy.  I started shooting firearms 27 years ago when I was 13 years old.  Gun safety is always stressed in all videos, discussions,....  There are four rules of gun safety.  Do you know what they are?  Many gun owners know them because they are commonly discussed and included in manuals, videos, discussions,...  Maybe some initial gun safety training is needed for first time gun owners.  I could see a 1 hour class or something along those lines but we are keeping the ARs and the AKs.

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Not the same. I had my "favorite" WW2 fighter plane at one time. But it isn't legal for civilians to use a fully armed Corsair in public.

He isn't treating that the same when he talks about it. He is delusional in that he does not understand it is not a toy. I am sure you can find cops and military that have "favorite weapons" too. But the ones who understand impact and use, of and seriousness of it, also know the meaning of time place and context and treat those deadly objects tools. They also understand that not everyone should use them.

You cant take a sword or axe or chisel 32 stories up in a hotel and murder 50plus people in minutes.

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Spray weapons are not designed for "fun", rapid fire spray weapons are designed to cause quick damage to more people in a quicker period.

Well, my sword, axe and chisel are all deadly tools.  But why can't a civilian who likes guns describe one as a 'favourite'?  If it shoots well, functions properly, and so forth, it can be their favourite.  It just means the one they like the most.

Don't be so uptight.

Boru

Thanks Boru!

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I have a favorite Browning M2 .50 cal. Heavy Machine Gun. Fully automatic, licensed and legal.

Gawszillia, we are not talking about one person, and I am not talking about you. You know that. In a perfect world if everyone thought like you, we would not have the problems we do, or the amount of firearm violence we do.

I am talking about long term policy and long term collective attitude about firearms, not any one person.

You know I suffer from anxiety and depression, but unlike other firearm owners, you accept that it would not be a good idea for me to own a firearm. Unfortunately our laws don't vet at time of sale to prevent someone with my mental illness from getting one.

And as far as big rounds, and high capacity clips and rapid fire spray weapons, again, we are not talking about a perfect world where everyone thinks like you. 

It just seems more pragmatic to limit clip sizes, ban battle field weapons, and vet at the time of sale rather than wait till something bad happens.

Using mental illness is a way to disarm the public or to keep the public away from getting needed psychiatric and psychological help.  If it came down to it I would never mention that I get anxiety again.  Everyone gets anxiety and depression.  That is a way to disarm Americans which would prevent many people from even bothering to get help.

A 30 round magazine is not that high capacity.  There are semi-automatic pistols that can hold a lot of rounds. 

There is already a vetting at time of sale.  Felons cannot own guns.  Mentally ill cannot carry guns,...

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I've rarely disagreed with you.

On this subject I always see that. And appreciate it.

There is a huge difference between a firearm worshiper and a firearm owner. You are an owner, not a worshiper.

I do not worship firearms.  I worship God alone.  Firearms are needed for many reasons as I point out above and they just happen to be my hobby as well.