RE: Is Trump going to Prison?
February 20, 2024 at 3:33 pm
(This post was last modified: February 20, 2024 at 3:38 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
I think it's more that whatever the majority opinions of a demographic tend to be become what it means to be "conservative", rather than people getting more conservative as some static measure of political opinions on x.
I think that it escapes alot of people how indebted maga is to the american left from about the 60's onward. In the popular imagination, the conservative or right wing has been the party of rah rah rah. The whole america first thing is a remnant of that - but what does the magat line actually say? That we're fucked. That our foreign policy is hypocritical and not in our (or our allies) best interests. That everyone is laughing at us. That our government has betrayed us. This...american....carnage - in short. If we take a deeper dive into the (more) cynical aspects of maga as a white separatist movement, we might notice that they loudly protest the suggestion that we live in a white supremacist country while demanding that we become one. A future historian might dryly explain that maga as a movement distinct from it's predecessor started with gamergate, and we'd chuckle, but they'd be right. If they suggested that the oxygen it needed to profoundly change the american political landscape came from young men, traditionally left-leaning safe spaces, and suburban mothers protecting presumed virtues and opportunities, we'd be offended, but here again they'd be right. They are people who have heard -and agree with- the lefts politics of oppression - and come to an entirely different conclusion about it than most of us here. The whole enterprise of contemporary white supremacy is to invert the power dynamics that the right has traditionally (and falsely) claimed did not exist for the last 60 years or so. To accept that there are systemically oppressed groups of people..and then claim that those people are white. They don't disagree about what the bad thing is, or that the bad thing is happening, they think it's happening/happened to them.
So pour one out for the magats who..if circumstances were different, would have been card carrying socialists. There's a reason that the only people they detest more than you guys are the deep state neocons.
I think that it escapes alot of people how indebted maga is to the american left from about the 60's onward. In the popular imagination, the conservative or right wing has been the party of rah rah rah. The whole america first thing is a remnant of that - but what does the magat line actually say? That we're fucked. That our foreign policy is hypocritical and not in our (or our allies) best interests. That everyone is laughing at us. That our government has betrayed us. This...american....carnage - in short. If we take a deeper dive into the (more) cynical aspects of maga as a white separatist movement, we might notice that they loudly protest the suggestion that we live in a white supremacist country while demanding that we become one. A future historian might dryly explain that maga as a movement distinct from it's predecessor started with gamergate, and we'd chuckle, but they'd be right. If they suggested that the oxygen it needed to profoundly change the american political landscape came from young men, traditionally left-leaning safe spaces, and suburban mothers protecting presumed virtues and opportunities, we'd be offended, but here again they'd be right. They are people who have heard -and agree with- the lefts politics of oppression - and come to an entirely different conclusion about it than most of us here. The whole enterprise of contemporary white supremacy is to invert the power dynamics that the right has traditionally (and falsely) claimed did not exist for the last 60 years or so. To accept that there are systemically oppressed groups of people..and then claim that those people are white. They don't disagree about what the bad thing is, or that the bad thing is happening, they think it's happening/happened to them.
So pour one out for the magats who..if circumstances were different, would have been card carrying socialists. There's a reason that the only people they detest more than you guys are the deep state neocons.
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