RE: A Christian group showed up at the Chigaco Gay Pride...
February 3, 2012 at 12:58 pm
(This post was last modified: February 3, 2012 at 1:05 pm by CliveStaples.)
(February 3, 2012 at 12:34 pm)Doubting Thomas Wrote: Since when has the WBC ever said something as calm as "No, I don't think that kind of lifestyle is actually good?" No, they're spouting hate speech pure & simple. How can "God hates fags" be anything but hate speech? They're telling a group of people that God hates them and therefore the WBC members hate them as well. They're spreading hate, intolerance, and bigotry.
And you're lumping me in with them because I put a different normative moral value on homosexual sex than you do.
Quote:And frankly, if you don't like gay pride parades, then don't go to them.
Frankly, if you don't like gay pride protest parades, then don't go to them.
(February 3, 2012 at 12:55 pm)RW_9 Wrote: Here is the fundamental reason this discussion has become pointless: you believe this is about lifestyle. Which essentially is the same line of thinking as "Well, I don't have a problem with black people themselves, it's when they live in sin with a white woman that bothers me."
I've had this conversation too many times and seen it degrade to this very point too many times, so there's no point in continuing. Have a nice day. Way to hijack what was a fun thread.
No, the "lifestyle" bit was specifically in reference to some gay pride parades which promote a promiscuous casual/anonymous sex lifestyle. In general my disagreement isn't about lifestyle, because I assume most gay men are probably a lot like me: they like Mad Men, they insult their friends in jest, they try not to be jerks, etc. My disagreement in general is with regard to sexual values--specifically, whether or not homosexual sex acts are morally good or not.
And don't try to make all sexual values equivalent to racism. Is it like being racist to disapprove of adultery? Is it like being racist to disapprove of lying to someone in order to get them to sleep with you?
Most people have particular sexual values. Ours differ.
Also, differences in sex are distinct from differences in race. Having the Boy Scouts is not the same as having the White Scouts.
“The truth of our faith becomes a matter of ridicule among the infidels if any Catholic, not gifted with the necessary scientific learning, presents as dogma what scientific scrutiny shows to be false.”
