RE: The idea of God always existing
March 10, 2012 at 10:29 am
(This post was last modified: March 10, 2012 at 10:31 am by The Grand Nudger.)
It's only a problem if one is trying to "prove" the existence of god by brute force of fallacy. If everything has a cause, then so does god, if god does not have a cause, everything cannot be said to have a cause. It's a self defeating argument.
This is why a slight rework in wording is made for the Kalam variant "everything that began to exist...has a cause". In this case, the proponent is unable to identify anything other than god which did not "begin to exist", IOW, they may as well just save themselves the time and say "God", but they can't, because then they assume what they wish to prove.
This is why a slight rework in wording is made for the Kalam variant "everything that began to exist...has a cause". In this case, the proponent is unable to identify anything other than god which did not "begin to exist", IOW, they may as well just save themselves the time and say "God", but they can't, because then they assume what they wish to prove.
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