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The Genesis Fraud
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RE: The Genesis Fraud
(April 11, 2012 at 12:31 am)Drich Wrote: Short answer the Jews have different time lines than the traditional christians. Which put the genesis of the book of Genesis in the Hands of aberham rather than Moses, which can make the work about 1500 years or so older than than the OP's efforts to date the work. (Based on 1000 year old tradition of the roman catholic church)

Irrelevant. Christianity is founded on Judaism, nobody said otherwise.
Whether Mr michealsherlock is correct or not is certainly up for debate and I stand undecided, but this response does nothing to move the discussion forward. What does it change? Nothing.
So the Jewish put a different timeline on things than Christians? It matters not one jot which timeline is correct, what matters is when it was written.
Personally I suspect its a bit of both. Very ancient scraps, with extra bits tagged on and thrown together over the years. Bit like the NT.

Quote:The fact that the beginings of the work Moses named Genesis were first penned down by Aberham/Abramwould refute another claim that God can only speak Hebrew.

I assume you mean Abram or Abraham. I find no reference to him being called Aberham or Abramwould.
You may well be right, I'm sure you've studied it more closely, but I found no immediate references to these spellings. Curious why you would use them, if Abraham would be a clearer method of getting your point across, since we are more aware of that usage. Why would you use an archaic or nonsense term instead of the one that would be understood by the audience it is intended for?

(April 11, 2012 at 12:31 am)Drich Wrote: Then I posted a link on Archeology.com that put the destomication of camels about 2000 years before what the OP claimed. After three unanswered challenges I assumed the OP could not or simply would not refute what has been contested..

I think the fact remains that the question is not clearly answered by archeology yet and may never be. The OP's source on domestication of camels is not 100% convincing to me either.
Its definitely the weakest point in the text.

Look at that, we agree on something Drich! Big Grin
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The Genesis Fraud - by michaelsherlock - April 8, 2012 at 9:50 pm
RE: The Genesis Fraud - by Epimethean - April 8, 2012 at 10:16 pm
RE: The Genesis Fraud - by Minimalist - April 8, 2012 at 10:36 pm
RE: The Genesis Fraud - by Nine - April 8, 2012 at 10:38 pm
RE: The Genesis Fraud - by Drich - April 9, 2012 at 1:16 am
RE: The Genesis Fraud - by Minimalist - April 9, 2012 at 2:28 am
RE: The Genesis Fraud - by michaelsherlock - April 9, 2012 at 2:34 am
RE: The Genesis Fraud - by Epimethean - April 9, 2012 at 4:08 am
RE: The Genesis Fraud - by michaelsherlock - April 9, 2012 at 7:06 am
RE: The Genesis Fraud - by R-e-n-n-a-t - April 9, 2012 at 4:10 am
RE: The Genesis Fraud - by padraic - April 9, 2012 at 9:22 pm
RE: The Genesis Fraud - by Epimethean - April 9, 2012 at 9:29 am
RE: The Genesis Fraud - by michaelsherlock - April 9, 2012 at 10:11 am
RE: The Genesis Fraud - by frankiej - April 9, 2012 at 9:34 am
RE: The Genesis Fraud - by The Grand Nudger - April 9, 2012 at 10:26 am
RE: The Genesis Fraud - by popeyespappy - April 9, 2012 at 11:26 am
RE: The Genesis Fraud - by Drich - April 9, 2012 at 7:31 pm
RE: The Genesis Fraud - by Minimalist - April 9, 2012 at 11:47 am
RE: The Genesis Fraud - by michaelsherlock - April 9, 2012 at 11:58 am
RE: The Genesis Fraud - by zip_ster - April 9, 2012 at 12:38 pm
RE: The Genesis Fraud - by Minimalist - April 9, 2012 at 1:02 pm
RE: The Genesis Fraud - by michaelsherlock - April 9, 2012 at 8:26 pm
RE: The Genesis Fraud - by The Grand Nudger - April 9, 2012 at 9:08 pm
RE: The Genesis Fraud - by michaelsherlock - April 9, 2012 at 9:10 pm
RE: The Genesis Fraud - by Drich - April 9, 2012 at 9:44 pm
RE: The Genesis Fraud - by michaelsherlock - April 9, 2012 at 10:27 pm
RE: The Genesis Fraud - by Drich - April 9, 2012 at 10:47 pm
RE: The Genesis Fraud - by michaelsherlock - April 10, 2012 at 3:21 am
RE: The Genesis Fraud - by Drich - April 10, 2012 at 10:55 am
RE: The Genesis Fraud - by NoMoreFaith - April 10, 2012 at 11:26 am
RE: The Genesis Fraud - by michaelsherlock - April 10, 2012 at 11:40 am
RE: The Genesis Fraud - by Drich - April 11, 2012 at 12:31 am
RE: The Genesis Fraud - by michaelsherlock - April 11, 2012 at 1:42 am
RE: The Genesis Fraud - by NoMoreFaith - April 11, 2012 at 6:42 am
RE: The Genesis Fraud - by michaelsherlock - April 11, 2012 at 8:20 am
RE: The Genesis Fraud - by The Grand Nudger - April 10, 2012 at 9:22 am
RE: The Genesis Fraud - by michaelsherlock - April 10, 2012 at 9:40 am
RE: The Genesis Fraud - by Epimethean - April 10, 2012 at 9:28 am
RE: The Genesis Fraud - by Minimalist - April 11, 2012 at 2:54 am
RE: The Genesis Fraud - by Undeceived - April 11, 2012 at 4:06 am
RE: The Genesis Fraud - by The Grand Nudger - April 11, 2012 at 8:43 am
RE: The Genesis Fraud - by michaelsherlock - April 11, 2012 at 9:04 am
RE: The Genesis Fraud - by Undeceived - April 11, 2012 at 2:02 pm
RE: The Genesis Fraud - by michaelsherlock - April 11, 2012 at 11:39 pm
RE: The Genesis Fraud - by Undeceived - April 12, 2012 at 1:08 pm
RE: The Genesis Fraud - by Minimalist - April 11, 2012 at 1:48 pm
RE: The Genesis Fraud - by The Grand Nudger - April 11, 2012 at 9:21 pm
RE: The Genesis Fraud - by Minimalist - April 12, 2012 at 1:16 pm
RE: The Genesis Fraud - by michaelsherlock - April 12, 2012 at 9:34 pm
RE: The Genesis Fraud - by Undeceived - April 15, 2012 at 3:03 am
RE: The Genesis Fraud - by NoMoreFaith - April 15, 2012 at 7:03 am
RE: The Genesis Fraud - by michaelsherlock - April 15, 2012 at 7:47 am
RE: The Genesis Fraud - by Undeceived - April 15, 2012 at 3:54 pm
RE: The Genesis Fraud - by michaelsherlock - April 15, 2012 at 8:11 pm
RE: The Genesis Fraud - by Minimalist - April 12, 2012 at 9:39 pm
RE: The Genesis Fraud - by michaelsherlock - April 12, 2012 at 9:48 pm
RE: The Genesis Fraud - by Minimalist - April 12, 2012 at 10:46 pm
RE: The Genesis Fraud - by Epimethean - April 15, 2012 at 9:12 am
RE: The Genesis Fraud - by Minimalist - April 15, 2012 at 11:22 am
RE: The Genesis Fraud - by Epimethean - April 15, 2012 at 9:15 pm
RE: The Genesis Fraud - by michaelsherlock - April 16, 2012 at 6:22 am

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