RE: Colorado parents of transgender 1st-grader file complaint over restroom ban
March 2, 2013 at 11:20 pm
(March 2, 2013 at 10:48 pm)Shell B Wrote: I didn't say definitely confused. If you look at my post more carefully, I allowed for either scenario. The bottom line is that bathrooms are based on our genitals. They are not based on gender. If you have a penis, you go to the penis room and vice versa. I do not see it harming the child. Besides, you are arguing for unisex bathrooms in the same breath as arguing against making a girl go with the boys. It's asinine. She does have rights. So do the girls who have vaginas whose bathroom this little girl with a penis would be using. Penis goes to penis room. That is the very reason for the divide.
You're committing the appeal to definition fallacy. Can you give any reason why we should define who goes to what restroom on the sole basis of genitalia?
Quote:Besides, this child is six fucking years old. Coddle her now and pretend that she is run-of-the-mill and she is going to have a hell of a shock ahead. Better get her used to the fact that she is has a very important part that biological girls do not.
What "shock" might that be and what makes you think kid isn't already aware of his/her difference to girls?
If the kid was born with the wrong parts, you'd think it be best to try and correct that as much as you can. Allowing the kid to use the restroom of the gender she should have been born as would I think would serve that correction.
Quote:I was asked earlier if I would feel uncomfortable going to the bathroom with TaraJo or Lilly present. My answer to that is I know Lilly and she is my friend. Of course I would not feel uncomfortable. I piss around guy friends and girl friends. I do not know TaraJo personally. Yes, I might feel slightly uncomfortable knowing there was a secret penis in the restroom. It is nothing against being transgender. It is about having a penis. Assuming I know nothing about this person, I do not want a grown biological male in the same bathroom as my niece. I do not want a grown biological woman in the same bathroom as my nephew either. If this is really that big of a fucking deal, why not make a pre-op trans bathroom and say fuck it? You can't pretend she is biologically female.
But the transgendered woman would be attracted to men so she wouldn't pose a threat to you.
Quote:You honestly think that giving hormone therapy to a six-year-old who likely cannot even ride a bike without training wheels yet is okay, Tara? She can wear whatever she wants. If her parents opt for any medical treatment, I would want the child taken away from them.
This is the argument from incredulity fallacy. Can you articulate exactly what you find wrong with her undergoing hormone therapy?
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"The lord doesn't work in mysterious ways, but in ways that are indistinguishable from his nonexistence."
-- George Yorgo Veenhuyzen quoted by John W. Loftus in The End of Christianity (p. 103).