RE: Refute a first cause which most people would call G-d AKA Deism
May 9, 2013 at 12:05 pm
(This post was last modified: May 9, 2013 at 12:09 pm by xdrgnh.)
Technology can never detect something that is not composed of space time and matter because technology can only be composed of space time and matter. Zeus can be refuted because the greek myth's make physical claims not meta physical claims and physical claims can be refuted with science. I'm using pure logic and reason. No matter how advanced or knowledgeable we became a species we will not be able to make a square circle. the same thing applies with doing a scientific experiment to show the validity of the super natural AKA stuff that is not time space or matter. However from the logical principles I expressed in the beginning of this thread it can be shown that something besides space time and matter must exist for our universe to have come into being. If you want to ask why the first cause came into being then you get a infinite regression. It's not a good argument against the first cause asking the cause of the first cause. G-d is defined in my religion and most religion and in Deism as a being which is not composed of space time or matter. The big difference between a Deist and a Atheist to me is that a Atheist have to be believe all that exists is nature while a Deist has to believe that something besides nature exists.
Pink unicorns have no logical reason to exist. As I shown in the beginning of this thread a first cause AKA Deist G-d must exist via logical necessity for our universe to exist.
A first cause is not a designer. It could of been a designer but we would have no prove that. But we can prove there must be some immaterial cause which is not composed of space time or matter and we call this immaterial cause G-d.
(May 9, 2013 at 1:02 am)Baalzebutt Wrote: If one cannot refute pink unicorns, one should not say they don't exist.
How is this statement any different than your statement about deism?
Pink unicorns have no logical reason to exist. As I shown in the beginning of this thread a first cause AKA Deist G-d must exist via logical necessity for our universe to exist.
(May 9, 2013 at 1:17 am)Ryantology Wrote:Quote:Intrinsically the universe alone does not have the sufficient characteristic to come into existence on it's own.
But, conscious intelligence required for there to be a designer does? If so, explain how you can know it.
A first cause is not a designer. It could of been a designer but we would have no prove that. But we can prove there must be some immaterial cause which is not composed of space time or matter and we call this immaterial cause G-d.
