Refute a first cause which most people would call G-d AKA Deism

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Refute a first cause which most people would call G-d AKA Deism

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RE: Refute a first cause which most people would call G-d AKA Deism

May 9, 2013 at 1:40 pm

(May 9, 2013 at 1:36 pm)downbeatplumb Wrote:
(May 9, 2013 at 1:33 pm)xdrgnh Wrote: Because if it's not material or dependent upon space time and matter then it must not be natural. Natural by it's very definition is the universe which is composed of only space time and matter. I've shown logically to account for it's existence something that is not of space time and matter must be the cause of it's existence. This cause we call G-d and G-d is not natural and if it's not natural it's super natural.

You have found a gap to cram your god into.

You'll forgive me if I think that the idea lacks a little something.

What evidence? In mathematics you don't prove something using evidence. You prove it using logic and reason alone. That is what I've done here.

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Refute a first cause which most people would call G-d AKA Deism - by xdrgnh - May 8, 2013 at 8:43 pm

RE: Refute a first cause which most people would call G-d AKA Deism - by Minimalist - May 8, 2013 at 9:00 pm

RE: Refute a first cause which most people would call G-d AKA Deism - by xdrgnh - May 8, 2013 at 9:04 pm

RE: Refute a first cause which most people would call G-d AKA Deism - by Minimalist - May 8, 2013 at 9:33 pm

RE: Refute a first cause which most people would call G-d AKA Deism - by Rayaan - May 8, 2013 at 9:07 pm

RE: Refute a first cause which most people would call G-d AKA Deism - by xdrgnh - May 8, 2013 at 9:10 pm

RE: Refute a first cause which most people would call G-d AKA Deism - by Neo-Scholastic - May 8, 2013 at 9:17 pm

RE: Refute a first cause which most people would call G-d AKA Deism - by Rayaan - May 8, 2013 at 9:29 pm

RE: Refute a first cause which most people would call G-d AKA Deism - by downbeatplumb - May 9, 2013 at 12:26 pm

RE: Refute a first cause which most people would call G-d AKA Deism - by Gearbreak - May 8, 2013 at 9:15 pm

RE: Refute a first cause which most people would call G-d AKA Deism - by xdrgnh - May 8, 2013 at 9:20 pm

RE: Refute a first cause which most people would call G-d AKA Deism - by Esquilax - May 8, 2013 at 9:26 pm

RE: Refute a first cause which most people would call G-d AKA Deism - by xdrgnh - May 8, 2013 at 9:38 pm

RE: Refute a first cause which most people would call G-d AKA Deism - by Minimalist - May 8, 2013 at 10:59 pm

RE: Refute a first cause which most people would call G-d AKA Deism - by xdrgnh - May 8, 2013 at 11:36 pm

RE: Refute a first cause which most people would call G-d AKA Deism - by Esquilax - May 9, 2013 at 12:18 am

RE: Refute a first cause which most people would call G-d AKA Deism - by xdrgnh - May 9, 2013 at 12:20 am

RE: Refute a first cause which most people would call G-d AKA Deism - by Esquilax - May 9, 2013 at 1:12 am

RE: Refute a first cause which most people would call G-d AKA Deism - by Tonus - May 9, 2013 at 9:40 am

RE: Refute a first cause which most people would call G-d AKA Deism - by Baalzebutt - May 9, 2013 at 1:02 am

RE: Refute a first cause which most people would call G-d AKA Deism - by FifthElement - May 9, 2013 at 1:11 am

RE: Refute a first cause which most people would call G-d AKA Deism - by Ryantology - May 9, 2013 at 1:17 am

RE: Refute a first cause which most people would call G-d AKA Deism - by cneron - May 9, 2013 at 1:42 am

RE: Refute a first cause which most people would call G-d AKA Deism - by fr0d0 - May 9, 2013 at 1:57 am

RE: Refute a first cause which most people would call G-d AKA Deism - by Minimalist - May 9, 2013 at 2:11 am

RE: Refute a first cause which most people would call G-d AKA Deism - by fr0d0 - May 9, 2013 at 3:56 am

RE: Refute a first cause which most people would call G-d AKA Deism - by Violet - May 9, 2013 at 1:49 pm

RE: Refute a first cause which most people would call G-d AKA Deism - by Minimalist - May 9, 2013 at 2:51 pm

RE: Refute a first cause which most people would call G-d AKA Deism - by tokutter - May 10, 2013 at 8:25 am

RE: Refute a first cause which most people would call G-d AKA Deism - by Minimalist - May 12, 2013 at 6:26 pm

RE: Refute a first cause which most people would call G-d AKA Deism - by xdrgnh - May 9, 2013 at 12:05 pm

RE: Refute a first cause which most people would call G-d AKA Deism - by Ryantology - May 9, 2013 at 12:15 pm

RE: Refute a first cause which most people would call G-d AKA Deism - by xdrgnh - May 9, 2013 at 12:19 pm

RE: Refute a first cause which most people would call G-d AKA Deism - by Ryantology - May 9, 2013 at 1:29 pm

RE: Refute a first cause which most people would call G-d AKA Deism - by xdrgnh - May 9, 2013 at 1:33 pm

RE: Refute a first cause which most people would call G-d AKA Deism - by downbeatplumb - May 9, 2013 at 1:36 pm

RE: Refute a first cause which most people would call G-d AKA Deism - by xdrgnh - May 9, 2013 at 1:40 pm

RE: Refute a first cause which most people would call G-d AKA Deism - by downbeatplumb - May 9, 2013 at 1:48 pm

RE: Refute a first cause which most people would call G-d AKA Deism - by Violet - May 9, 2013 at 1:55 pm

RE: Refute a first cause which most people would call G-d AKA Deism - by xdrgnh - May 9, 2013 at 1:57 pm

RE: Refute a first cause which most people would call G-d AKA Deism - by Violet - May 9, 2013 at 2:06 pm

RE: Refute a first cause which most people would call G-d AKA Deism - by Jackalope - May 9, 2013 at 3:22 pm

RE: Refute a first cause which most people would call G-d AKA Deism - by Ryantology - May 9, 2013 at 2:02 pm

RE: Refute a first cause which most people would call G-d AKA Deism - by xdrgnh - May 9, 2013 at 2:09 pm

RE: Refute a first cause which most people would call G-d AKA Deism - by Ryantology - May 9, 2013 at 2:18 pm

RE: Refute a first cause which most people would call G-d AKA Deism - by Violet - May 9, 2013 at 2:35 pm

RE: Refute a first cause which most people would call G-d AKA Deism - by Ben Davis - May 12, 2013 at 3:52 pm

RE: Refute a first cause which most people would call G-d AKA Deism - by Ben Davis - May 9, 2013 at 12:17 pm

RE: Refute a first cause which most people would call G-d AKA Deism - by Simon Moon - May 9, 2013 at 12:32 pm

RE: Refute a first cause which most people would call G-d AKA Deism - by xdrgnh - May 9, 2013 at 12:44 pm

RE: Refute a first cause which most people would call G-d AKA Deism - by Jackalope - May 9, 2013 at 1:41 pm

RE: Refute a first cause which most people would call G-d AKA Deism - by xdrgnh - May 9, 2013 at 1:42 pm

RE: Refute a first cause which most people would call G-d AKA Deism - by Jackalope - May 9, 2013 at 1:47 pm

RE: Refute a first cause which most people would call G-d AKA Deism - by xdrgnh - May 9, 2013 at 1:50 pm

RE: Refute a first cause which most people would call G-d AKA Deism - by Jackalope - May 9, 2013 at 2:27 pm

RE: Refute a first cause which most people would call G-d AKA Deism - by Gearbreak - May 9, 2013 at 2:03 pm

RE: Refute a first cause which most people would call G-d AKA Deism - by Napoléon - May 10, 2013 at 8:32 am

RE: Refute a first cause which most people would call G-d AKA Deism - by Neo-Scholastic - May 10, 2013 at 4:27 pm

RE: Refute a first cause which most people would call G-d AKA Deism - by Simon Moon - May 10, 2013 at 5:58 pm

Re: RE: Refute a first cause which most people would call G-d AKA Deism - by frz - May 10, 2013 at 9:48 am

RE: Refute a first cause which most people would call G-d AKA Deism - by Minimalist - May 10, 2013 at 4:46 pm

RE: Refute a first cause which most people would call G-d AKA Deism - by Jackalope - May 10, 2013 at 5:05 pm

RE: Refute a first cause which most people would call G-d AKA Deism - by Violet - May 10, 2013 at 6:34 pm

RE: Refute a first cause which most people would call G-d AKA Deism - by The Grand Nudger - May 10, 2013 at 10:17 pm

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