Christians - Aware you worship a virgin?

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As far as Jesus' divinity, Mark was based off of the eye witness accounts of peter and is the oldest of the Gospels I believe. Jesus refers to himself there as the "Son of Man". The son of man in my opinion is a title he uses to convey to the people of the time his intent. They had the old testament so in Daniel chapter 7 as a refrence with it's 4 beasts "premonition" from daniel followed by their destruction byth "son of man".

13 "In my vision at night I looked, and there before me was one like a son of man, coming with the clouds of heaven. He approached the Ancient of Days and was led into his presence. 14 He was given authority, glory and sovereign power; all peoples, nations and men of every language worshiped him. His dominion is an everlasting dominion that will not pass away, and his kingdom is one that will never be destroyed.

All of the books of the gospel reference Jesus from their perspective from my recollection. He refers to himself as I am, the old testament name for God, many times throughout the new testament. The Quran denies the divinity of Jesus, but not Jesus himself. The Antiquities of the Jews written some time before the year 100 references Jesus' career from the Jewish community. He is reffered to by tertullian in adversus marcionem as the bringer of light. I mean we might debate on who or what Jesus was but are we really going to argue his existance entirely?


"absolutely no contemporary sources to confirm his existence" That would be determinant on what you qualify as evidence. If I ever invent a time macine, I'll make sure to go back, get his picture and have him autograph it for you.

Son of man, son of man... hmmm. I had that somewhere. I knew I wrote about it a decade ago...or yes here it is from "Bible Bloopers..."

The Son of Man

“The term ‘Son of Man’ was the way He usually referred to Himself. Son of Man occurs 81 times in the Gospel accounts. Notice also Jesus clearly identified Himself as the one about whom Daniel prophesied…” –Josh McDowell

What exactly is the “Son of Man” and is it more than just a term of endearment? The Son of Man is first mentioned in the book of Ezekial. The Lord calls Ezekial the Son of Man. Ezekial got this title after seeing strange creatures, weird de¬vices, the firmament, and of course creatures with the color of “the terrible crystal” Although the Bible gives this title to Ezekial, it does not have the same meaning as when Jesus refers to him¬self as the Son of Man.
 The Son of Man, simply stated, was an individual who would rule over the New Jerusalem for a millennium. After the Savior inspires the Hellenized Jews to convert to the orthodox ways, the Messiah would lead the battle to defeat the enemies of Israel, and this New Kingdom would then be ruled for a thousand years by the Son of Man. (Some sects expected a war, others believed in a peaceful takeover of Rome.)
 Ezekial prophesied (incorrectly) that the Northern and Southern kingdoms would once again be united. The Southern kingdom carried off by Babylon did return to Israel under Cyrus the Great; however the Northern kingdom was destroyed by Assyria. The Hebrews that were captured became part of Assyrian culture. They are not returning anywhere anytime. After God was to pull off this miracle he would defeat Israel’s enemies (chapter 38). The person who would rule “forever” over this reunited New Jerusalem will be David (Ezk. 37:24-25). In other words David is to be the traditional “Son of Man”: “…my servant David shall be their prince forever.”
 When Daniel started writing during the Greek occupation, the prophecy of the divine kingdom took on new meaning. Instead of seeing one beast with four faces, we now have four beasts. The Son of Man in Daniel (7:13-14) will rule all nations forever, after defeating the Greeks. In Jesus’ time the enemy was the Romans. In our time it is the Russians, the Chinese, a united Europe, or the Islamic Nation depending on who is in power at the time. I have found out the best way to determine who is our current enemy, is to see what nationality the “bad guy” represents on professional wrestling.
 Daniel, like Ezekial, names the prince who will save mankind in 12:1. It is Michael. The prophecy game becomes real tough when one has to name names.
 The idea of the “Son of Man” can not be accredited to the Hebrews. It existed in ancient Egypt. Under King Seneferu, who reigned before 3000 B.C.E., a priest prophesied that a king named Ameni would come out of the south, born of a woman of Nubia in Nechen. He would unite Upper and Lower Egypt and bring together Horus (= Jesus) and Set (= Satan) in love. Egypt’s enemies would be defeated, the poor made whole, and his name shall endure for all eternity. His title? “The people will rejoice in the time of the son of man.”