Our server costs ~$56 per month to run. Please consider donating or becoming a Patron to help keep the site running. Help us gain new members by following us on Twitter and liking our page on Facebook!
Current time: August 5, 2026, 9:51 am

Thread Rating:
  • 0 Vote(s) - 0 Average
  • 1
  • 2
  • 3
  • 4
  • 5
Christians - Aware you worship a virgin?
#54
RE: Christians - Aware you worship a virgin?
(December 13, 2009 at 7:43 am)tackattack Wrote: I feel I have an "experience" that is unconveyable. The sum of which is as follows: I have some books, some tests I've ran against God, some peronal logical conclusions about my perception of the world I live in, unexplainable phenomenon, etc all adding up to my "experience". I don't think that's belief in belief, I think that's Belief in my perception of the world as it affects me. It studiable, peer reviewable and follows logical progression in my mind.
Nothing of what you mention on the "input side" is alien to me (including unexplainable phenomena). But there is no straight argument to the "output side" (i.e. god) of the equation you make. The will to arrive at that conclusion is what shines through as belief in belief. Before you can ever hope to begin to make a distinction between hope and truth, you must be willing to question the evidential basis for such hope and differentiate between little evidence for big claims and ample evidence for little claims. It will be your truth that you have to act upon for the rest of your life and with your background it is to be expected that long held convictions will be shaken when assessed with unbiased questioning. A forum like this is a good place to do it.

(December 13, 2009 at 7:43 am)tackattack Wrote: If all I can hand you is some "blurry photos" of God and tell you the story of how I saw him "running through the woods humping an elk" (I really liked using the bigfoot metaphor Big Grin) you're still not going to believe it because you can't justify my credibility because of our differences in perception or "cut open the carcass yourself". I'm content to just agree that you see things you way do and I mine. I'm not really here to prove God to anyone or sway anyone aware from atheism (not that I have that anywhere close to that amount of brain power) . I'm just trying to understand atheism as a perspective and some aspects of science I don't fully comprehend from some really intellegent and thoughtfull people (nice to but that's not a requirement).
I see you are not the proselytizing kind. You come here with questions. And we (speaking for the atheists here that have reacted) attack them, fiercely I might add. Indeed science is not the only answer on life, there's moral, there's art and there's reverence to life and the universe. Just don't think atheists are without this.
"I'm like a rabbit suddenly trapped, in the blinding headlights of vacuous crap" - Tim Minchin in "Storm"
Christianity is perfect bullshit, christians are not - Purple Rabbit, honouring CS Lewis
Faith is illogical - fr0d0
Reply



Messages In This Thread
Christians - Aware you worship a virgin? - by theVOID - December 10, 2009 at 2:04 pm
RE: Christians - Aware you worship a virgin? - by binny - December 10, 2009 at 2:14 pm
RE: Christians - Aware you worship a virgin? - by theVOID - December 10, 2009 at 2:37 pm
RE: Christians - Aware you worship a virgin? - by Edwardo Piet - December 18, 2009 at 12:42 pm
RE: Christians - Aware you worship a virgin? - by fr0d0 - December 10, 2009 at 8:35 pm
RE: Christians - Aware you worship a virgin? - by Ace Otana - December 10, 2009 at 2:38 pm
RE: Christians - Aware you worship a virgin? - by theVOID - December 10, 2009 at 2:39 pm
RE: Christians - Aware you worship a virgin? - by Violet - December 10, 2009 at 2:41 pm
RE: Christians - Aware you worship a virgin? - by theVOID - December 10, 2009 at 2:44 pm
RE: Christians - Aware you worship a virgin? - by Ace Otana - December 10, 2009 at 3:52 pm
RE: Christians - Aware you worship a virgin? - by theVOID - December 10, 2009 at 3:56 pm
RE: Christians - Aware you worship a virgin? - by Amphora - December 10, 2009 at 3:23 pm
RE: Christians - Aware you worship a virgin? - by theVOID - December 10, 2009 at 3:27 pm
RE: Christians - Aware you worship a virgin? - by Violet - December 10, 2009 at 3:59 pm
RE: Christians - Aware you worship a virgin? - by theVOID - December 10, 2009 at 4:09 pm
RE: Christians - Aware you worship a virgin? - by Violet - December 10, 2009 at 4:26 pm
RE: Christians - Aware you worship a virgin? - by theVOID - December 10, 2009 at 4:31 pm
RE: Christians - Aware you worship a virgin? - by binny - December 11, 2009 at 8:21 pm
RE: Christians - Aware you worship a virgin? - by Eilonnwy - December 11, 2009 at 9:41 pm
RE: Christians - Aware you worship a virgin? - by Violet - December 10, 2009 at 5:44 pm
RE: Christians - Aware you worship a virgin? - by tackattack - December 10, 2009 at 7:51 pm
RE: Christians - Aware you worship a virgin? - by Dotard - December 10, 2009 at 11:32 pm
RE: Christians - Aware you worship a virgin? - by tackattack - December 11, 2009 at 7:44 am
RE: Christians - Aware you worship a virgin? - by leo-rcc - December 11, 2009 at 7:57 am
RE: Christians - Aware you worship a virgin? - by theVOID - December 11, 2009 at 8:03 am
RE: Christians - Aware you worship a virgin? - by padraic - December 11, 2009 at 1:14 am
RE: Christians - Aware you worship a virgin? - by theVOID - December 11, 2009 at 7:36 am
RE: Christians - Aware you worship a virgin? - by binny - December 11, 2009 at 8:01 pm
RE: Christians - Aware you worship a virgin? - by theVOID - December 11, 2009 at 8:04 pm
RE: Christians - Aware you worship a virgin? - by tackattack - December 11, 2009 at 9:11 am
RE: Christians - Aware you worship a virgin? - by Dotard - December 11, 2009 at 9:29 am
RE: Christians - Aware you worship a virgin? - by theVOID - December 11, 2009 at 9:44 am
RE: Christians - Aware you worship a virgin? - by tackattack - December 11, 2009 at 10:51 pm
RE: Christians - Aware you worship a virgin? - by theVOID - December 11, 2009 at 11:02 pm
RE: Christians - Aware you worship a virgin? - by LEDO - December 12, 2009 at 11:58 pm
RE: Christians - Aware you worship a virgin? - by tackattack - December 11, 2009 at 11:29 pm
RE: Christians - Aware you worship a virgin? - by theVOID - December 11, 2009 at 11:34 pm
RE: Christians - Aware you worship a virgin? - by tackattack - December 11, 2009 at 11:56 pm
RE: Christians - Aware you worship a virgin? - by theVOID - December 12, 2009 at 12:22 am
RE: Christians - Aware you worship a virgin? - by Ace Otana - December 12, 2009 at 7:27 am
RE: Christians - Aware you worship a virgin? - by chatpilot - December 12, 2009 at 2:45 am
RE: Christians - Aware you worship a virgin? - by padraic - December 12, 2009 at 7:12 am
RE: Christians - Aware you worship a virgin? - by chatpilot - December 12, 2009 at 11:45 am
RE: Christians - Aware you worship a virgin? - by tackattack - December 12, 2009 at 12:35 pm
RE: Christians - Aware you worship a virgin? - by Violet - December 13, 2009 at 5:45 am
RE: Christians - Aware you worship a virgin? - by binny - December 12, 2009 at 3:06 pm
RE: Christians - Aware you worship a virgin? - by chatpilot - December 12, 2009 at 3:15 pm
RE: Christians - Aware you worship a virgin? - by tackattack - December 13, 2009 at 2:05 am
RE: Christians - Aware you worship a virgin? - by theVOID - December 13, 2009 at 2:15 am
RE: Christians - Aware you worship a virgin? - by chatpilot - December 13, 2009 at 8:45 pm
RE: Christians - Aware you worship a virgin? - by LEDO - December 19, 2009 at 12:13 am
RE: Christians - Aware you worship a virgin? - by tackattack - December 20, 2009 at 12:55 am
RE: Christians - Aware you worship a virgin? - by tackattack - December 13, 2009 at 3:03 am
RE: Christians - Aware you worship a virgin? - by tackattack - December 13, 2009 at 7:04 am
RE: Christians - Aware you worship a virgin? - by tackattack - December 13, 2009 at 7:43 am
RE: Christians - Aware you worship a virgin? - by Purple Rabbit - December 13, 2009 at 9:21 am
RE: Christians - Aware you worship a virgin? - by LEDO - December 13, 2009 at 9:42 am
RE: Christians - Aware you worship a virgin? - by binny - December 13, 2009 at 2:00 pm
RE: Christians - Aware you worship a virgin? - by fr0d0 - December 13, 2009 at 9:47 am
RE: Christians - Aware you worship a virgin? - by LEDO - December 13, 2009 at 10:11 am
RE: Christians - Aware you worship a virgin? - by fr0d0 - December 13, 2009 at 10:54 am
RE: Christians - Aware you worship a virgin? - by fr0d0 - December 13, 2009 at 4:49 pm
RE: Christians - Aware you worship a virgin? - by Amphora - December 13, 2009 at 5:07 pm
RE: Christians - Aware you worship a virgin? - by fr0d0 - December 13, 2009 at 5:13 pm
RE: Christians - Aware you worship a virgin? - by Amphora - December 13, 2009 at 5:22 pm
RE: Christians - Aware you worship a virgin? - by tackattack - December 14, 2009 at 3:06 am
RE: Christians - Aware you worship a virgin? - by fr0d0 - December 13, 2009 at 6:34 pm
RE: Christians - Aware you worship a virgin? - by chatpilot - December 14, 2009 at 8:33 am
RE: Christians - Aware you worship a virgin? - by theVOID - December 14, 2009 at 9:37 am
RE: Christians - Aware you worship a virgin? - by chatpilot - December 14, 2009 at 3:08 pm
RE: Christians - Aware you worship a virgin? - by theVOID - December 14, 2009 at 3:47 pm
RE: Christians - Aware you worship a virgin? - by chatpilot - December 14, 2009 at 4:27 pm
RE: Christians - Aware you worship a virgin? - by binny - December 14, 2009 at 6:45 pm
RE: Christians - Aware you worship a virgin? - by chatpilot - December 15, 2009 at 12:35 am
RE: Christians - Aware you worship a virgin? - by tackattack - December 15, 2009 at 2:57 am
RE: Christians - Aware you worship a virgin? - by chatpilot - December 15, 2009 at 9:08 am
RE: Christians - Aware you worship a virgin? - by fr0d0 - December 15, 2009 at 6:36 pm
RE: Christians - Aware you worship a virgin? - by chatpilot - December 16, 2009 at 12:39 am
RE: Christians - Aware you worship a virgin? - by tackattack - December 16, 2009 at 2:01 am
RE: Christians - Aware you worship a virgin? - by chatpilot - December 16, 2009 at 10:48 am

Possibly Related Threads...
Thread Author Replies Views Last Post
  Matt 1:25, not a virgin Fake Messiah 8 2169 October 13, 2023 at 11:49 pm
Last Post: Fake Messiah
  [Serious] For former Christians only, why did you leave your faith? Jehanne 159 45205 January 16, 2023 at 7:36 am
Last Post: h4ym4n
  Would they worship a chair? Fake Messiah 20 4556 April 26, 2021 at 3:40 pm
Last Post: The Grand Nudger
  The ethics of worship Nihilist Virus 42 15082 October 11, 2020 at 12:15 am
Last Post: The Architect Of Fate
  Christians worship Satan and don't even know it rado84 18 5571 April 15, 2019 at 8:29 pm
Last Post: brewer
  Christians vs Christians (yec) Fake Messiah 52 19764 January 31, 2019 at 2:08 pm
Last Post: The Grand Nudger
  Christians: What line are you unwilling to cross for God? Cecelia 96 26458 September 5, 2018 at 6:19 pm
Last Post: The Grand Nudger
  Christians: Can you see why atheists don't buy this stuff? vulcanlogician 49 12046 August 19, 2018 at 8:03 pm
Last Post: vulcanlogician
  Ex-Christians: How do you lose your fear of hell? KiwiNFLFan 29 10673 November 20, 2017 at 2:07 pm
Last Post: purplepurpose
  Well, shit... Now who are supposed to worship? Cyberman 20 7239 July 5, 2017 at 8:23 pm
Last Post: ignoramus



Users browsing this thread: 1 Guest(s)